Yeah except my cousin who was posted there and had to watch people get shot dead and not intervene, messed him up really bad.
You rewrite history.
yeah traffickersEh? is he speaking in an abstract way, blaming trafficking, or does he genuinely mean a group of criminals killed him?
Think a lot of people have been wasting their time with you over this tbh. Report me if you like but you're not a **** for wanting the best for your family, your attitude stinks and you're a selfish **** in general.
Edit; before you call me a keyboard warrior I'll tell you I'd happily say that to your face
The Dutch UN troops fucked up badly, French and British troops had to replace them sharpish as they were next to useless they just froze and didn't know what to do, their officers were a disgraceYeah except my cousin who was posted there and had to watch people get shot dead and not intervene, messed him up really bad.
Invite more people into the country that is close to breaking point? NHS stretched to its limits, reduction in police officers, doctors, other major services but invite more people in who will be a further drain on the economy?some of you lot need to give your heads a wobble.
Humanitarian disaster, natural disasters, famine, war is all part of the world unfortunately.
You are genuinely an arsehole. Thought better of you and agree with you on some stuff but you've really proven yourself today and shown your true colours. Hope you're proud of yourself.Thanks :)
I understand your view.just so you are aware, you are living in one of the most prosperous countries on earth in the most prosperous time in human existence, so maybe your right, lets pull up the drawbridge and keep the incredible good fortune that is the complete accident of our place and time of birth to ourselves
iImagine the torment of having these foreign types getting a sniff of our riches, the horror!
I understand your view.
However, down at grass roots level, in Housing depts, Councils, A and E, schools, dentists, job centres, Real lives tell me something different is happening.
Or is it all in my imagination?
I really don't think we need even more pressure and another solution is needed.
How naughty of me..and some others...to have a different view then you..and some others...it really is a disgraceYou are genuinely an arsehole. Thought better of you and agree with you on some stuff but you've really proven yourself today and shown your true colours. Hope you're proud of yourself.
Yes but that's the reality right now.............just visit A and E at most hours of the day or night and see for yourself.I think the point he was making is that the pressures you see at grassroots level are the result of ideological policies enacted by our government. They are not inevitable, and all of our public services could be funded much better. Its just that for ideological reasons our government decides not to.
We still have schools and hospitals, we still have, however much we knock them, councils. We still have dentists and in comparison to the rest of the world, a shitload of disposable income. To a rational mind, why not share?I understand your view.
However, down at grass roots level, in Housing depts, Councils, A and E, schools, dentists, job centres, Real lives tell me something different is happening.
Or is it all in my imagination?
I really don't think we need even more pressure and another solution is needed.
Please show me where i've said fuck them off in a selfish fucking manner.We still have schools and hospitals, we still have, however much we knock them, councils. We still have dentists and in comparison to the rest of the world, a shitload of disposable income. To a rational mind, why not share?
I'm still staggered by the selfish state of mind shown by yourself and others in this thread. We're all blues from different backgrounds but I kinda thought we were above this. Maybe I'm the idiot.
Yes but that's the reality right now.............just visit A and E at most hours of the day or night and see for yourself.
You cannot change the Government I'm afraid. Not for 5 years anyway.
ok you take them in your house then......where are they going to go?I will take A&E being a nightmare over my son being washed up on a beach
Woe is fucking us eh, these Syrians don't know the half of it, trying to come over here thinking its all roses.... 20 mins in Wythenshawe general and they'll be heading back no doubt...
Here's the account of how that poor boy came to be washed up on the beach:
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The family of a three-year-old Syrian boy whose body was washed up on a beach in Turkey were making a final, desperate attempt to flee to relatives in Canada even though their asylum application had been rejected, according to reports.
Speaking to Canadian press on Wednesday night, the family said Abdullah Kurdi had phoned them to tell them his wife and sons were dead, and now only wanted to return to their Kurdish hometown of Kobani to bury his family. The town was bombarded by heavy fighting earlier this year between Islamic State and Kurdish fighters.
Their aunt Teema Kurdi, a hairdresser in Vancouver, heard the news from her brother Mohammad’s wife, Ghuson. “She had got a call from Abdullah, and all he said was, my wife and two boys are dead,” she told the National Post.
“I was trying to sponsor them, and I have my friends and my neighbours who helped me with the bank deposits, but we couldn’t get them out, and that is why they went in the boat.
“I was even paying rent for them in Turkey, but it is horrible the way they treat Syrians there.”
Kurdi, who emigrated to Canada more than two decades ago, said she had privately sponsored a refugee application for the family to come and join her in Canada, but the application had been rejected.
Her account was confirmed by her local MP, Fin Donnelly, who told the paper that he had personally delivered Kurdi’s application to the immigration minister, Chris Alexander.
The application made by Kurdi, if successful, allows refugees to move to Canada if they have the sponsorship of at least five Canadian citizens, on the condition those citizens provide financial and emotional support.
Only applicants who have been formally designated refugees can apply, and many Syrian Kurds have reported difficulties getting their applications processed in UNHCR camps in Turkey. Turkey will also not issue exit visas to refugees if they do not have official status.
The two young brothers and their mother were among at least 12 Syrians who died on the boat headed for Greece.
The boat was part of a flotilla of small dinghies, boarded by passengers at Akyarlar, the closest point to the Greek Aegean island of Kos.
It overturned in calm waters, overloaded by the 17 passengers. Bodies washed up on the shore in Ali Hoca Point beach in Bodrum. Another dinghy, also carrying a further 16 people, is also known to have capsized.
The Turkish coastguard said five children and a woman had died when the boat capsized, and another three people were still missing. Helicopters helped rescue another 15 people.
This week, the Turkish coastguard said it had rescued over 42,000 people in the Aegean Sea in the first five months of 2015 and 2,160 in the last week. More than 100 were pulled from the sea on Wednesday night alone, trying to reach Kos, the coastguard told AFP.
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So they weren't trying to get to Greece as they saw the EU as the "land of milk of honey", as some pathetic tools on here have assumed. They were going to Greece because Syrians are treated like shit in Turkey and they needed to get to their relatives in Canada. Desperate people who took desperate measures, and some thick fucking idiots who get their world view from Bravo-Two-Zero were suggesting that they didn't deserve sympathy. Freeloaders you cried. Responsible for their own suffering you suggested. Cunts. You fucking self-centred heartless dumb-as-fuck idiot cunts. Sub-human manchild pieces of worthless shit. There are some right nasty, spiteful cunts on here. I fucking despise you and I'm finding it hard not to wish such deprivation and desperation and suffering on each and every one of you.
And then there are the imbeciles with an IQ of a coffee-cup who's reaction to this is "lets blow some more of [insert M.E country here] up". Yeah, cos that's been shown to work these past 13 years hasn't it? The reason IS has been able to flourish is because of the vacuum left over from our previous military misadventures. Go back to wanking off over your Jane's Military Weekly and Action Man figurines please, and leave foreign policy to grown-ups.
ok you take them in your house then......where are they going to go?
NO ONE IS ANSWERING THIS...that is my point ......where??????????? You going to pay????
Ok where then??? refugee camps?They're refugees because of a temporary humanitarian issue, who's saying they need to be given citizenship, council houses, JSA and all other state entitlements?