MCFC U14s 9-0 RAGS U14s

watched u10 game on next pitch and even so young very worrying for reds at level which foundations are put in.

A team of Man united kids picked on size totally outplayed by physically much smaller, way more technical city kids, score was a respectable 3-2 to city but didn't tell full story I counted the woodwork rattled 9 times and city must have had above 70% possession united just couldn't get ball off them and keep hold of it.

Not sure if its recruitment or coaching or both but a gulf of difference.

Have to be honest
 
ericcantona7 said:
watched u10 game on next pitch and even so young very worrying for reds at level which foundations are put in.

A team of Man united kids picked on size totally outplayed by physically much smaller, way more technical city kids, score was a respectable 3-2 to city but didn't tell full story I counted the woodwork rattled 9 times and city must have had above 70% possession united just couldn't get ball off them and keep hold of it.

Not sure if its recruitment or coaching or both but a gulf of difference.

Have to be honest
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Good post bud.

I mean I'll always say the results don't matter especially at this level of "Development" as the kids could totally outplay another team, lose, but still play much better football which helps them develop long term.
I'd rather this was going on... Yet we are outplaying teams with our style of football AND also getting results.

Taking off my blue tinted specs if I had a child who was outright class and every club wanted him I would choose City, simply for the standard of coaching, the private education and facilities available.

My Brother (who's a red) also said the same when he saw the facilities at the campus.
 
As good as our youth teams are its not necessarily to our senior team's benefit. IMO it's something that is a benefit to the community and football in general. It's the FA that should be rubbing their hands. And surrounding lower level clubs.

My hope is that a greater percentage of these players make it to the professional game than before.

Be prepared though for some fantastic players playing for United, Liverpool etc after coming through our ranks. Their Goaters. ;-)

So proud of how our club is doing at the moment.
 
ericcantona7 said:
watched u10 game on next pitch and even so young very worrying for reds at level which foundations are put in.

A team of Man united kids picked on size totally outplayed by physically much smaller, way more technical city kids, score was a respectable 3-2 to city but didn't tell full story I counted the woodwork rattled 9 times and city must have had above 70% possession united just couldn't get ball off them and keep hold of it.

Not sure if its recruitment or coaching or both but a gulf of difference.

Have to be honest
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Cheers for the post.

For anyone who still scoffs at the term 'holistic', this is what it means, not getting a youth player in the starting 11 for the 1st team every week when they're not ready.
At every age level they're playing the same style of football with the same possession stats and overwhelming attacking flair. I find it astounding that they've managed everything they have in the relative short time they've owned us. The 1st team youth players will come, be patient.
 
ColinLee said:
Cheers for the post.

For anyone who still scoffs at the term 'holistic', this is what it means, not getting a youth player in the starting 11 for the 1st team every week when they're not ready.
At every age level they're playing the same style of football with the same possession stats and overwhelming attacking flair. I find it astounding that they've managed everything they have in the relative short time they've owned us. The 1st team youth players will come, be patient.
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The problem is then ripping up all that teamwork at 19, & sending them out to play god knows where & be coached by god knows who, in god knows what circumstances. When their development has been as part of a functioning 'whole' team philosophy ie of course 'hollistic'. Suddenly the 10 yard pass as one of 35 in the move involving the whole team, isn't good enough at your new loan club & you have to beat 3 players & put a cross in instead, or be dropped to the bench.

The only way to avoid that is for some City manager, one day, to be ordered to start actually introducing our academy philosophy & some of the players, into the first team each season.
 
Neville Kneville said:
The problem is then ripping up all that teamwork at 19, & sending them out to play god knows where & be coached by god knows who, in god knows what circumstances. When their development has been as part of a functioning 'whole' team philosophy ie of course 'hollistic'. Suddenly the 10 yard pass as one of 35 in the move involving the whole team, isn't good enough at your new loan club & you have to beat 3 players & put a cross in instead, or be dropped to the bench.

The only way to avoid that is for some City manager, one day, to be ordered to start actually introducing our academy philosophy & some of the players, into the first team each season.
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Yeah....Pep next season..
 
Neville Kneville said:
The problem is then ripping up all that teamwork at 19, & sending them out to play god knows where & be coached by god knows who, in god knows what circumstances. When their development has been as part of a functioning 'whole' team philosophy ie of course 'hollistic'. Suddenly the 10 yard pass as one of 35 in the move involving the whole team, isn't good enough at your new loan club & you have to beat 3 players & put a cross in instead, or be dropped to the bench.

The only way to avoid that is for some City manager, one day, to be ordered to start actually introducing our academy philosophy & some of the players, into the first team each season.
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No, the only way to avoid that (for more than the odd player each season) is 'B' teams. I'd be very, very surprised if our owners aren't pushing for something similar (perhaps European youth league).
 
ColinLee said:
No, the only way to avoid that (for more than the odd player each season) is 'B' teams. I'd be very, very surprised if our owners aren't pushing for something similar (perhaps European youth league).
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Be interesting to see how deeply into the Girona project we become involved.
What do we foresee the extent of our placing players there?
 
ColinLee said:
No, the only way to avoid that (for more than the odd player each season) is 'B' teams. I'd be very, very surprised if our owners aren't pushing for something similar (perhaps European youth league).
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So you are saying that if we can't farm 11 players per season off abroad, then we're fucked.
I strongly disagree. We start to use them in the first team squad. And we eventually use the best ones in the team regularly. If none are good enough, we sell. Some will be good enough. If we can't find one player in the next few seasons who can do what Navas or Fernando or Delph can do, for a start, we shoud close the academy down & build a boating lake there with a few bars.
 
A few years ago or more a rag u18 side beat an understrength city u18 side 6-1. The Daily Mirror devoted almost a full page inside the back sport page reporting on the game. The headline was "City's future built on sand" with a reference to our arab owners & the tone of the report was United had a brighter future than City on the evidence of this one result. The reporter raved about the star of the show Larnell Cole who scored a hat-trick. I believe he is now a big star in Fulham's reserve side. I wonder if the Daily Mirror will run a similar story after our u14's demolishing their u14's 9-0. I don't know the DM reporter was who ran the story. Most likely that rag lover David McDonnell.
 
It could have been 10 said:
A few years ago or more a rag u18 side beat an understrength city u18 side 6-1. The Daily Mirror devoted almost a full page inside the back sport page reporting on the game. The headline was "City's future built on sand" with a reference to our arab owners & the tone of the report was United had a brighter future than City on the evidence of this one result. The reporter raved about the star of the show Larnell Cole who scored a hat-trick. I believe he is now a big star in Fulham's reserve side. I wonder if the Daily Mirror will run a similar story after our u14's demolishing their u14's 9-0. I don't know the DM reporter was who ran the story. Most likely that rag lover David McDonnell.
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if this is true then excellent post. Biased cunts!
 
Why Always Ste said:
if this is true then excellent post. Biased cunts!
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Why Manchester City's set-up is built on Abu Dhabi sand despite their megabucks first team.

By Alan Nixon

Roberto Mancini raised a few eyebrows when he said Manchester City - the club with all of the cash - was running short of players.

But there was something deceptively deep in Mancini's comments and it is a problem that City have not addressed in their recent years of turmoil.

There are simply very few players coming through the ranks to push or even support the big-money buys in the first team now or in the next blue moon.

Two alarming scores and performances in the past few days have only confirmed that the current set-up is built on Abu Dhabi sand - and will be until they start bringing more players up in the traditional way

The City youth team were spanked 6-1 by Manchester United's kids last weekend -not an isolated result either as City struggle to turn their bright ideas into player power at that level.

Then, City's reserves were comprehensively beaten at home by Bolton in midweek with a side dubiously dubbed the 'development' team by one of their boffins.

Those who saw the matches report that there is an alarming lack of a supply line of future City players, which only means that their wealthy owners will have to buy ready-made rather than produce their own.

It is probably the result of so many regime changes - many of them with money for 'show' signings rather than the solid recruitment policies of the past.

There are also intriguing and increasing questions about who City use to find the next generation of starlets and whether the best kids want to go there.

All of these may appear minor details as City have their best season on the pitch in living memory, but if the spending dries up at any stage then serious troubles lie ahead.

Mancini has found out at first hand that there is nothing in the lower ranks worth promoting just now and, sadly, that may be the case for years to come.

There is no new Micah Richards or Daniel Sturridge around. The scouts who discovered them have gone too.

City get so many things right just now, but this is one glaring problem area.
 
It could have been 10 said:
A few years ago or more a rag u18 side beat an understrength city u18 side 6-1. The Daily Mirror devoted almost a full page inside the back sport page reporting on the game. The headline was "City's future built on sand" with a reference to our arab owners & the tone of the report was United had a brighter future than City on the evidence of this one result. The reporter raved about the star of the show Larnell Cole who scored a hat-trick. I believe he is now a big star in Fulham's reserve side. I wonder if the Daily Mirror will run a similar story after our u14's demolishing their u14's 9-0. I don't know the DM reporter was who ran the story. Most likely that rag lover David McDonnell.
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He's not even in Fulham's reserve team, he's been loaned out to the mighty Shrewsbury. Funnily enough his wiki pages notes the game against City and the two games where he scored against Liverpool. Clearly the highlights of his career to date
 
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