Player topic : Yaya Toure (2015/16)

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which actually got worse when Delph came on so why was that? For me it's more that the manager just can't organise them and the team as a whole are too lazy in closing down especially from the front with Bony being the chief culprit.

I thought the worst at pressing today was De Bruyne. Should have been darting around like a Jack Russell with a firework up its arse, given that he was only out there for about 25 minutes, but he ambled about all round shouldered and let Swansea players walk past him. Very fine attacking player, but does fuck all from a defensive standpoint and we couldn't afford that today
 
I thought the worst at pressing today was De Bruyne. Should have been darting around like a Jack Russell with a firework up its arse, given that he was only out there for about 25 minutes, but he ambled about all round shouldered and let Swansea players walk past him. Very fine attacking player, but does fuck all from a defensive standpoint and we couldn't afford that today

I'm glad someone else noticed this.
 
Great player and the amount of times he has got us out of the shit over the years is well documented and he did it again today. Miss the link up play when he is not in the side. Obviously we need to start planning for his succession but at the moment we have nobody to replace him.
i can moan about his shortcomings all day long but I am a realist enough to see that "at the moment we have nobody to replace him"
 
Weird how we still have that 'problem' when he doesn't play though. Vs Spurs and Vs Stoke he didn't even play. It's a team problem and always has been. We just don't work hard collectively without the ball.

And the reason he isn't a squad player is because he's ten times the player of Delph and the absolutely dreadful Fernando.

Corrected for you
 
It'd be churlish to suggest that YaYa will be looked upon as anything but a club legend. Up there with the very best to have pulled on a blue shirt. That's not to say we can't discuss his shortcomings in the here and now, of which there are a couple.
We all want to see a fit and roaring Toure tearing the league up but I think we have to accept its going to be on a far less regular basis - which goes back to managing his game time correctly.
 
Been excellent in the last few games he has played, drove us forward yesterday and 2nd half v Borussia, couple of trademark surging runs as well suggests he is very much still a key City player.
 
Workrate seems to have improved over the last few games, maybe he's finally realised his place is under threat.
 
i can moan about his shortcomings all day long but I am a realist enough to see that "at the moment we have nobody to replace him"

Absolute rubbish, we had a 25 year old England international regular (when fit) sat on the bench who although not as technically talented would give us an instant injection of pace, energy and aggression to allow us to play the high pressing style which Yaya unfortunately isn't capable of playing.
 
Absolute rubbish, we had a 25 year old England international regular (when fit) sat on the bench who although not as technically talented would give us an instant injection of pace, energy and aggression to allow us to play the high pressing style which Yaya unfortunately isn't capable of playing.

The high pressing style requires high energy from the 10 outfield players - not just central midfielders.

I like Delph. He is England class. It's just that a rested Yaya is World Class!
 
The high pressing style requires high energy from the 10 outfield players - not just central midfielders.

I like Delph. He is England class. It's just that a rested Yaya is World Class!

we can play all 3, we just have to drop one of the more attacking players which is exactly what i think we should do for the time being

------------hart---------------

----------back 4----------------

dino----- yaya---------- delph

now you pick a front 3 .....we know silva starts so that goes without saying as does Kun when fit....so that leaves kdb and sterling rotating

makes us much more solid and we still have a considerable attacking presence/threat
 
we can play all 3, we just have to drop one of the more attacking players which is exactly what i think we should do for the time being

------------hart---------------

----------back 4----------------

dino----- yaya---------- delph

now you pick a front 3 .....we know silva starts so that goes without saying as does Kun when fit....so that leaves kdb and sterling rotating

makes us much more solid and we still have a considerable attacking presence/threat

I agree with you Simon about both Yaya and Delph playing!

I think we would need to look at rhe forward balance if we wanted to play a high pressing game. Maybe Jarry Kane will arrive in the Summer!!
 
we can play all 3, we just have to drop one of the more attacking players which is exactly what i think we should do for the time being

------------hart---------------

----------back 4----------------

dino----- yaya---------- delph

now you pick a front 3 .....we know silva starts so that goes without saying as does Kun when fit....so that leaves kdb and sterling rotating

makes us much more solid and we still have a considerable attacking presence/threat
It's the back four that has me worried. We seem to have to shuffle the rest around just to give protection when really we should be salivating over what is happening up front.
 
The high pressing style requires high energy from the 10 outfield players - not just central midfielders.

I like Delph. He is England class. It's just that a rested Yaya is World Class!

We had 9 if you discount Yaya and Bony, we had two ideal replacements in Delph and Kelechi.

Yaya was world class, he's now finished at the very highest level unfortunately. There's two sides to a game - with the ball and without the ball, being great at one and atrocious at the other isn't good enough against anyone who knows how to exploit his weaknesses and its happening more and more often.
 
We had 9 if you discount Yaya and Bony, we had two ideal replacements in Delph and Kelechi.

Yaya was world class, he's now finished at the very highest level unfortunately. There's two sides to a game - with the ball and without the ball, being great at one and atrocious at the other isn't good enough against anyone who knows how to exploit his weaknesses and its happening more and more often.

Yaya's not the athlete he was but he's easily been our best outfield player over the last two games. It's all about using him in the right ways and at te right times.
 
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