Mangala transfer papers leaked

[balotelli's back pocket]

Think your right there Matty, let's ditch him asap, doesn't matter what the loss is, not our money. Ffs,
He will come good, wait and see, and if not will be a solid reserve for us. This f@cking not good us enough attitude stinks of arrogance, and what gives us that right to be so arrogant. We're not even half way to where some of us think we are.
God help messi if he comes and doesn't score a hat trick every week.

BRAVO!!! Mangala is the ultimate scapegoat. All our centre backs struggle as they are offered no protection. No offence, but i trust txixi more than the geniuses slagging mangala on here so i will actually support our players, rather than making snide comments about them. Manala if nothing else has been a great lad, friendly and professional, he deserves more respect.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Thanks for completely ignoring the point I was making.

My point was "he will come good" isn't a valid defence for a 25 year old centre half. He should have come good already. He's not a youth team player, he's not just starting out in his career. He's made nearly 250 first team appearances, spread out over 8 seasons. This isn't a youngster, it's an established first team footballer. He should be better than he is, and we can't be expecting him to improve hugely from what we currently see.

Saying a player isn't good enough for City isn't arrogance, it's an assessment of the current situation. We're a side looking to win domestic, and European, trophies, at the highest level. That means we need top quality players, Mangala hasn't performed at a level you'd expect from someone in a team like City often enough, he's too error prone, he's too clumsy, his positioning and decision making aren't where they need to be. He's not a bad footballer, far from it, but "not a bad footballer" isn't the level City are aiming for these days.

What about vardy, alonso, pirlo, toure, players that all have improved beyond the age of 25. I dont buy that he isnt good enough, he has been good this season, andnhe isnt unreliable like vinny, slow like demi so i dont get the problem

 

[Dax777]

When you think of what Arsenal paid for Sanchez in the same transfer window you want to slap whoever did that deal.

Dude, I whined about this that summer. I was told I was being knuckle head.

I even argued that if Mangala turned out to be as good as Kompany, it still wouldn't have been the best decision.

You can't let a talent like Sanchez who was tailor made for the Prem to go to your rivals. Not to mention, no one else was gonna pay that for Mangala. I don't know how we often get into an auction with no one but ourselves.

It's like how Chelsea kept bidding for Stones. They were clearly not bidding against anyone. But they got tunnel visioned about Stones. This is what we did with Mangala. No one else was bidding with us. Yet we let Porto price gouge us :(

 

[JGL07]

What about vardy, alonso, pirlo, toure, players that all have improved beyond the age of 25. I dont buy that he isnt good enough, he has been good this season, andnhe isnt unreliable like vinny, slow like demi so i dont get the problem

Tony Book didn't turn full time pro until he was 29. He joined City at 31 and everyone said they were mad paying that fee for a someone of his age.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It's a load of shite and has been covered before, the OP should be ashamed of starting the thread. http://www.thesportbible.com/articl...-for-elaquim-mangala-has-been-revealed-200116 are reporting that some dodgy website called Footy Leaks has posted a pdf which you have to download (be careful what it is you're downloading BTW).

'Footy Leaks have got hold of Mangala's transfer contract which reveals that Porto actually only owned 56.67% of Mangala's economic rights, with the Doyen Investment Group owning 33.33% and the remaining 10% being owned by a German company.'

Since we can't deal with 3rd parties it was accepted at the time that Porto had to pay off the 3rd parties themselves and then we paid the £32 mill. They've just done some really crap maths and come up with an inflated figure. They even claim Otamendi was £36 mill.

This - The OP and others are making the assumption that we paid Porto AND the third parties at the same rate that Porto paid the third parties. What if we didn't? The same applies to the Nicoli Otamandi fee. They owed us £20m for Alvano Negrado for a satrt

 

[capiloton]

we got robbed twice by porto. 1st with fernando, while his contract due to expire on that summer, and we can sign him under bosman rule on january, but he get force to sign a new contract with clause. instead sign for free, we paid £12 million for fernando. 2nd for mangala, with no other club in race for his signing, we paid £30+ million for an unknown player outside of portugal. he's not a dominance player in champions league, and not even a regular national player. bad business for every party involved. we should not sign anyone from porto again.

 

[Jacob Smith]

I'm still convinced that by the end of his City career he will have repaid that fee and more. I think he gets far too much stick and as someone said above he's the ultimate scapegoat

 

[Dax777]

I actually think that he'd thrive under Guardiola, possibly more so than Otamendi. Whether he gets the chance though, who knows. And if he doesn't, he can't really complain.

Why do you think this?

 

[Helmet Cole]

Bizarre how this comes just after Martial's was leaked.

I thought this as soon as I saw the title of this thread. True or not its just an attempt to draw attention away from the dreadful way the swamp is run.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Tony Book didn't turn full time pro until he was 29. He joined City at 31 and everyone said they were mad paying that fee for a someone of his age.

Exactly. Age does matter to an extent, but people saying by the age of 25 he should be good enouh doesnt make sense. I think he is good enouh, and he has 5 years till he reaches his peak level. Would be a huge mistake selling him, look at boateng.

 

[80s Shorts]

 

[malg]

Why do you think this?

Maybe he thinks Mangala will thrive in a Guardiola team that will work harder in front of the back four, and that will also deliver trophies?

 

[Dax777]

We got pants pulled down by Porto. Its happened before and will happen again its the City tax. Any player we are in for their price doubles sometimes triples. not Mangala's fault.

This is actually untrue. There is no City tax. There is a tax for wanting a player, who's present club doesn't want to sell. There is also a bidding tax. But there is no inherent City tax.

We tend to go tunnel vision on certain players. Half of whom weren't worth the fight over. Erickson was being shipped around as a 10 million dollar transfer when we were hell bent on paying 20 for Nasri. A player Arsenal didn't want to sell.

Wehave to learn how to become better opportunity buyers.

 

[Dax777]

Maybe he thinks Mangala will thrive in a Guardiola team that will work harder in front of the back four, and that will also deliver trophies?

No no. He said he'd be better than Otamendi. So I was wondering what the Mangala qualities were that suit a Pep system better than Otamendi.

 

[malg]

No no. He said he'd be better than Otamendi. So I was wondering what the Mangala qualities were that suit a Pep system better than Otamendi.

Ah right...... I've no idea then!

 

[dannyirishblue]

I thought this as soon as I saw the title of this thread. True or not its just an attempt to draw attention away from the dreadful way the swamp is run.

The old fake payslip belonging to Tevez is doing the rounds on facebook again now too

 

[Rolee]

This is actually untrue. There is no City tax. There is a tax for wanting a player, who's present club doesn't want to sell. There is also a bidding tax. But there is no inherent City tax.

We tend to go tunnel vision on certain players. Half of whom weren't worth the fight over. Erickson was being shipped around as a 10 million dollar transfer when we were hell bent on paying 20 for Nasri. A player Arsenal didn't want to sell.

Wehave to learn how to become better opportunity buyers.

Come off it! If we'd have gone for Eriksen that price would be doubled. Clubs we're buying from are of the belief that money is no object to us and set their price accordingly.

 

[Dax777]

Come off it! If we'd have gone for Eriksen that price would be doubled. Clubs we're buying from are of the belief that money is no object to us and set their price accordingly.

I don't believe this is true.

 

[Rolee]

I don't believe this is true.

They'd want to be idiots not to.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

He's gonna come good. Soon. Had that goal gone in v CFC instead of near ripping out the post, he'd have been flying now!!