Mark Clattenburg

you can tell he had a bad game when most of us can say he should that booked Yaya for his tackle on Dembele but didn't. Completely inept. The whole body of the 'Professional' referees needs to be seriously reviewed.

I agree, enthusiastic amateurs is the way to go, poorly paid guys that work 5 days a week and have no time to train....they'd be way better than well paid professionals and there's no way they would be far more likely to be open to corruption

Another Crackerjack of an idea from the brains behind throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
Surprised it took this long, I'm not getting into a swinging dick competition with you but suffice it to say that I am indeed a City fan of many years standing, I am not happy by the way but neither am I desperate enough to concoct some spurious nonsense to help me feel better about a defeat.

Dry your eyes and move on old son.
" Spurious nonsense" ?, what's 'spurious' and 'nonsense' about a penalty decision that is outrageously wrong and agreed as such by the pundits on MOTD and the rest of the footballing media.
The same goes for Roger East's non pen against Everton.
There's four extra points blown away by refs before I go on about the Leicester non pens ( home and away).
Still you're "happy" in a non fan kind of way (rag, wum?).
 
It's been posted on here before and certain refs were dropped from our games. @Prestwich_Blue knows the story behind it.

The same thing happened in 2011/12 except that time we took action and rescued the situation.

In that season, the first bad decision was probably at Fulham, when Dzeko was fouled in the build up to their equaliser but the foul wasn't given and we ended up dropping two points. The next (although it didn't affect the final result) was the failure to award what looked like a stonewall penalty at Old Trafford for a foul on Richards when we were 1-0 up. The next really bad decision was at Chelsea where, already 1-0 up, the referee turned down a clear penalty for a foul on Silva. He then gives a very soft penalty to Chelsea late on, to add insult to injury. The referee was Clattenburg in all three games.

After that, people in Abu Dhabi were told by someone who specialises in monitoring such things that there was a clear bias against us that could be correlated to suspicious betting patterns. So they paid this person to prepare a report with his evidence, which was passed to the authorities. As a result, Peter Walton disappeared to the USA mid-season and Lee Mason was withdrawn at short notice from a couple of games involving us, at our request. Just after this, Mike Riley made his famous presentation to Points Of Blue, where he told us how great the referees were, how they were totally unbiased (despite it being pointed out to him that one high-profile game had a ref where there was a clear conflict of interest). He also said Mason had been withdrawn due to an illness in his family but he was fourth official in London the same weekend, when his family is in Bolton. That was a lie. Mason was withdrawn because we objected.

The same person did something similar (although I don't know who for) back in 2007/8 after a referee had given a staggeringly one-sided performance in a Merseyside Derby in October 2007. The referee was Clattenburg and later that season he was suspended, then sacked and finally reinstated on appeal. But a couple of other referees were removed from front-line duties at the end of the 2008/9 season, namely Rob Styles & Mike Riley. Both were well short of the normal retirement age. One of Styles (many) controversial decisions came at Old Trafford, when Ronaldo was fairly tackled and he gave a penalty, even though no rag player appealed. Riley was the ref in the infamous Chelsea v Liverpool game when he wrongly sent off Frank Lampard but let Gerrard get away wit h two potential red card offences then failed to punish a deliberate flying kick on Benayoun by Bosingwa late on.

It's happening again this season but the club don't seem to have reacted in the same way, which is puzzling. Possibly because the person who helped us out last time is now doing the same for Arsenal. And how are they doing this season?
 
I agree, enthusiastic amateurs is the way to go, poorly paid guys that work 5 days a week and have no time to train....they'd be way better than well paid professionals and there's no way they would be far more likely to be open to corruption

Another Crackerjack of an idea from the brains behind throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Oh i'm sorry .... did i actually suggest that?? No. I'm saying the way referees get influenced by teams, dont give decisions in certain areas of the pitch but in others, guess at decisions when they cant or dont see them .... that side of the current 'professionals' is 'amateurish'.
 
I am afraid that the standard of refereeing in this country at the top level is dreadful. If you put a North west counties player in either side today it would not be hard to spot that player due to the difference in level of players all around, if you put a North West counties ref in charge of a Premier League game there would be little noticeably different in his standard to that displayed by Clattenburg and most of his Premier league collegues.
 
The same thing happened in 2011/12 except that time we took action and rescued the situation.

In that season, the first bad decision was probably at Fulham, when Dzeko was fouled in the build up to their equaliser but the foul wasn't given and we ended up dropping two points. The next (although it didn't affect the final result) was the failure to award what looked like a stonewall penalty at Old Trafford for a foul on Richards when we were 1-0 up. The next really bad decision was at Chelsea where, already 1-0 up, the referee turned down a clear penalty for a foul on Silva. He then gives a very soft penalty to Chelsea late on, to add insult to injury. The referee was Clattenburg in all three games.

After that, people in Abu Dhabi were told by someone who specialises in monitoring such things that there was a clear bias against us that could be correlated to suspicious betting patterns. So they paid this person to prepare a report with his evidence, which was passed to the authorities. As a result, Peter Walton disappeared to the USA mid-season and Lee Mason was withdrawn at short notice from a couple of games involving us, at our request. Just after this, Mike Riley made his famous presentation to Points Of Blue, where he told us how great the referees were, how they were totally unbiased (despite it being pointed out to him that one high-profile game had a ref where there was a clear conflict of interest). He also said Mason had been withdrawn due to an illness in his family but he was fourth official in London the same weekend, when his family is in Bolton. That was a lie. Mason was withdrawn because we objected.

The same person did something similar (although I don't know who for) back in 2007/8 after a referee had given a staggeringly one-sided performance in a Merseyside Derby in October 2007. The referee was Clattenburg and later that season he was suspended, then sacked and finally reinstated on appeal. But a couple of other referees were removed from front-line duties at the end of the 2008/9 season, namely Rob Styles & Mike Riley. Both were well short of the normal retirement age. One of Styles (many) controversial decisions came at Old Trafford, when Ronaldo was fairly tackled and he gave a penalty, even though no rag player appealed. Riley was the ref in the infamous Chelsea v Liverpool game when he wrongly sent off Frank Lampard but let Gerrard get away wit h two potential red card offences then failed to punish a deliberate flying kick on Benayoun by Bosingwa late on.

It's happening again this season but the club don't seem to have reacted in the same way, which is puzzling. Possibly because the person who helped us out last time is now doing the same for Arsenal. And how are they doing this season?
No no no, it's all just a happy coincidence that every week highly suspicious decisions go against us. It's not like Chinese betting syndicates even exist.
 
The same thing happened in 2011/12 except that time we took action and rescued the situation.

In that season, the first bad decision was probably at Fulham, when Dzeko was fouled in the build up to their equaliser but the foul wasn't given and we ended up dropping two points. The next (although it didn't affect the final result) was the failure to award what looked like a stonewall penalty at Old Trafford for a foul on Richards when we were 1-0 up. The next really bad decision was at Chelsea where, already 1-0 up, the referee turned down a clear penalty for a foul on Silva. He then gives a very soft penalty to Chelsea late on, to add insult to injury. The referee was Clattenburg in all three games.

After that, people in Abu Dhabi were told by someone who specialises in monitoring such things that there was a clear bias against us that could be correlated to suspicious betting patterns. So they paid this person to prepare a report with his evidence, which was passed to the authorities. As a result, Peter Walton disappeared to the USA mid-season and Lee Mason was withdrawn at short notice from a couple of games involving us, at our request. Just after this, Mike Riley made his famous presentation to Points Of Blue, where he told us how great the referees were, how they were totally unbiased (despite it being pointed out to him that one high-profile game had a ref where there was a clear conflict of interest). He also said Mason had been withdrawn due to an illness in his family but he was fourth official in London the same weekend, when his family is in Bolton. That was a lie. Mason was withdrawn because we objected.

The same person did something similar (although I don't know who for) back in 2007/8 after a referee had given a staggeringly one-sided performance in a Merseyside Derby in October 2007. The referee was Clattenburg and later that season he was suspended, then sacked and finally reinstated on appeal. But a couple of other referees were removed from front-line duties at the end of the 2008/9 season, namely Rob Styles & Mike Riley. Both were well short of the normal retirement age. One of Styles (many) controversial decisions came at Old Trafford, when Ronaldo was fairly tackled and he gave a penalty, even though no rag player appealed. Riley was the ref in the infamous Chelsea v Liverpool game when he wrongly sent off Frank Lampard but let Gerrard get away wit h two potential red card offences then failed to punish a deliberate flying kick on Benayoun by Bosingwa late on.

It's happening again this season but the club don't seem to have reacted in the same way, which is puzzling. Possibly because the person who helped us out last time is now doing the same for Arsenal. And how are they doing this season?

Well that should send at least two people slithering back under their fucking rock.
 
No no no, it's all just a happy coincidence that every week highly suspicious decisions go against us. It's not like Chinese betting syndicates even exist.
Funny how, as I've said before, Clattenburg did very well for us while we were owned by Shinawatra but as soon as his mate was pushed out by ADUG, he seemed to turn against us.

Read this: http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/eight-days-in-life-of-fascist.html

And this: http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-issues-with-mark-clattenburg.html
 
...and presumably another 'dossier' will be winging it's way to the Premier League in light of this latest outrage?

I genuinely don't understand City fans who see
The same thing happened in 2011/12 except that time we took action and rescued the situation.

In that season, the first bad decision was probably at Fulham, when Dzeko was fouled in the build up to their equaliser but the foul wasn't given and we ended up dropping two points. The next (although it didn't affect the final result) was the failure to award what looked like a stonewall penalty at Old Trafford for a foul on Richards when we were 1-0 up. The next really bad decision was at Chelsea where, already 1-0 up, the referee turned down a clear penalty for a foul on Silva. He then gives a very soft penalty to Chelsea late on, to add insult to injury. The referee was Clattenburg in all three games.

After that, people in Abu Dhabi were told by someone who specialises in monitoring such things that there was a clear bias against us that could be correlated to suspicious betting patterns. So they paid this person to prepare a report with his evidence, which was passed to the authorities. As a result, Peter Walton disappeared to the USA mid-season and Lee Mason was withdrawn at short notice from a couple of games involving us, at our request. Just after this, Mike Riley made his famous presentation to Points Of Blue, where he told us how great the referees were, how they were totally unbiased (despite it being pointed out to him that one high-profile game had a ref where there was a clear conflict of interest). He also said Mason had been withdrawn due to an illness in his family but he was fourth official in London the same weekend, when his family is in Bolton. That was a lie. Mason was withdrawn because we objected.

The same person did something similar (although I don't know who for) back in 2007/8 after a referee had given a staggeringly one-sided performance in a Merseyside Derby in October 2007. The referee was Clattenburg and later that season he was suspended, then sacked and finally reinstated on appeal. But a couple of other referees were removed from front-line duties at the end of the 2008/9 season, namely Rob Styles & Mike Riley. Both were well short of the normal retirement age. One of Styles (many) controversial decisions came at Old Trafford, when Ronaldo was fairly tackled and he gave a penalty, even though no rag player appealed. Riley was the ref in the infamous Chelsea v Liverpool game when he wrongly sent off Frank Lampard but let Gerrard get away wit h two potential red card offences then failed to punish a deliberate flying kick on Benayoun by Bosingwa late on.

It's happening again this season but the club don't seem to have reacted in the same way, which is puzzling. Possibly because the person who helped us out last time is now doing the same for Arsenal. And how are they doing this season?

Cheers PB, no doubt happy clapper or whatever is name is will be along to tell you you're mistaken.
 
There's no agenda, and even if there was, with players that can win games on their own with flashes of brilliance, I think they'd have a backs up against the wall feel to them.
As it is, we look lethagic, drained of ideas and there to be put to the sword. There is no threat from us in midfield. We're whimpering out.

Clattenburg has always been bigger than the game. His assistant on that far touchline i gthe 2nd half, well, well,well, Clattenburg does have a ready made replacement lined up.
 
Funny how, as I've said before, Clattenburg did very well for us while we were owned by Shinawatra but as soon as his mate was pushed out by ADUG, he seemed to turn against us.

Read this: http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/eight-days-in-life-of-fascist.html

And this: http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-issues-with-mark-clattenburg.html
Cheers mate, both interesting reads.

Maybe happy should have a quick glance at this article from the BBC as well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21501858

The fear is that these syndicates use financial rewards as a means to get players, or in some cases even teams and officials, to play in a such a way that they achieve a pre-determined result.
 
And just to throw this in as well. You should never ever discount corruption and abuse of power. People thought FIFA would never be brought to heel and they have been. Calciapoli scandal, Lance Armstrong being doped out of his arse, Cricket match fixing.

People always say "no, that can't possibly happen in our country because we are so special". We aren't, the difference is our regulatory bodies have probably been bought as well.
 
And just to throw this in as well. You should never ever discount corruption and abuse of power. People thought FIFA would never be brought to heel and they have been. Calciapoli scandal, Lance Armstrong being doped out of his arse, Cricket match fixing.

People always say "no, that can't possibly happen in our country because we are so special". We aren't, the difference is our regulatory bodies have probably been bought as well.
Correct. The posters decrying City don't get unjustly and too frequently turned over by officials, putting it down to being accidental or just bad officiating are numbering less in their responses. They're a proportion of mischievous rag wums/City fans who refuse to believe cheating even though the evidence of deliberate bias is plain to see. Three times the linos flag went up in an instant when Aguero was at the point of sprinting goal ward with the ball. I wanted to see again the validity of these decisions on television bearing in mind the same lino refused to flag Walker at WHL when he was clearly two yards off side. Not to mention the other off sides he overlooked when Spurs scored in that game.
 
"I think it hit Raheem Sterling's hand but the referee wasn't sure if it was inside or outside. Obviously we were asking for it to be inside," Kane said.

Sure. Sterling recently had his hand relocated to his back Harry. Asking for it to be inside? What the fuck?
 
Correct. The posters decrying City don't get unjustly and too frequently turned over by officials, putting it down to being accidental or just bad officiating are numbering less in their responses. They're a proportion of mischievous rag wums/City fans who refuse to believe cheating even though the evidence of deliberate bias is plain to see. Three times the linos flag went up in an instant when Aguero was at the point of sprinting goal ward with the ball. I wanted to see again the validity of these decisions on television bearing in mind the same lino refused to flag Walker at WHL when he was clearly two yards off side. Not to mention the other off sides he overlooked when Spurs scored in that game.
That "team" are responsible for 3 offside goals, and 1 penalty given against us this season, and a penalty not given for us, its a swing of 5 goals in 2 games, no to mention other shall we say "interesting" decisions today, at least 2 of the offsides against Aguero were incorrect (bent).

We as a club, need to start taking this seriously now, as they're not even hiding it any more, it used to be subtle, but no longer, its just a joke.

On another note re Clattenburg today, did anyone else notice him run 50 yards to shake hands with Fernandhino during play today ? It was before the 'penalty', very very odd behaviour.
 
Irrespective of the result - that was one of the worse penalty decisions I've seen for a long long time. Especially taking into consideration that many 'face on' decisions have been refused this season (which is absolutely the thing ref's are clamping down on this season - as they have a remit every season for specific fouls, for those who haven't got it yet).

If you don't 'get' this, and in any way can justify the decision made today, I'll be pleased to hear from you, and will happily provide the FA referee application forms via email.
 
I agree, enthusiastic amateurs is the way to go, poorly paid guys that work 5 days a week and have no time to train....they'd be way better than well paid professionals and there's no way they would be far more likely to be open to corruption

Another Crackerjack of an idea from the brains behind throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Surprised it took this long, I'm not getting into a swinging dick competition with you but suffice it to say that I am indeed a City fan of many years standing, I am not happy by the way but neither am I desperate enough to concoct some spurious nonsense to help me feel better about a defeat.

Dry your eyes and move on old son.
Maybe not. But you do seem at least a little bit naive and at best rather short-sighted. Did you watch the game, or listen to it on the radio (wireless)?
 

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