EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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The open borders mantra will be the undoing of the EU as far as the uninformed are concerned. The failed neoliberal economics ideology are too far above their heads to be understood.
The other tripwire is the recent agreement to pay Erdogan of Turkey 3billion Euro /year to slow down the refugee flow to Europe. Along with this, a concession has been made to reduce visa restrictions for Turks into Europe. This 3 billion has no accountability attached and no doubt will be used to finance the Jihadist war in Syria. Erdogan is a confirmed Islamist and has assumed dictatorial powers in Turkey. he has Brussels by the short and curlies. What a mess and what a cover-up by the MSM. This will not end well ,for Europe or Erdogan.
The root cause of course is the pursuit of regime change by Washington and its European pooodles (sic) in Syria. Chalk up another disaster and chaos in Turkey,to the Empire of Chaos in Washington.
Events are beginning to spin out of control, economically and politically for the European Project. Add in the coming economic collapse in Ukraine and another flood of refugees heading for the safe havens of Europe. Too many good reasons to be OUT of the EU.
 
blueinsa said:
This. The out side will use this attack today to debunk the narrative that the EU is keeping us all safe.
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Yes, they will, just as the in side would if something happened to strengthen their argument, sad but the way of the world
I'm afraid. Whether your for in or out, the islamist fruitcakes don't give a fuck, as long as their flag flies over Europe and a brutal theocracy is
installed ensuring no democracy whatsoever.
 
Monkfish said:
sorry Shilts, can you let us know how many generations back your ancestors have to have lived here before you become British enough for you and your ilk?
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Well you can't be angle, Saxon, Viking or Norman or you are a robbing European bastard who owes me back my land!
 
Monkfish said:
sorry Shilts, can you let us know how many generations back your ancestors have to have lived here before you become British enough for you and your ilk?
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Me and my ilk?, look at the thread fella, we were discussing the publics reaction not mine, and you call me an idiot?
 
Interesting I'm reading today that the French voters are wanting their own referendum and same happening in Germany as well on the back of the migrant crisis there. I think if we leave there will be a domino effect.
 
RandomJ said:
Interesting I'm reading today that the French voters are wanting their own referendum and same happening in Germany as well on the back of the migrant crisis there. I think if we leave there will be a domino effect.
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of course they do, but 'French voters' also want an Islamic State, 'French voters' also want to ban homosexuality etc etc
 
RandomJ said:
Interesting I'm reading today that the French voters are wanting their own referendum and same happening in Germany as well on the back of the migrant crisis there. I think if we leave there will be a domino effect.
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That is interesting. Do the French give a reason they want to leave the EU? Is it just down to out of control migration?
It's hard enough for us to secure our borders and we have a f*cking moat around us which the French don't have so I don't know how they envisage a secure France after a Frexit.
They also get a disproportionate level of agricultural subsidies so the reason for them wanting to leave cannot be financial. It would be mad for them to turn their backs on subsidies.
 
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YPhrunts said:
That is interesting. Do the French give a reason they want to leave the EU? Is it just down to out of control migration?
It's hard enough for us to secure our borders and we have a f*cking moat around us which the French don't have so I don't know how they envisage a secure France after a Frexit.
They also get a disproportionate level of agricultural subsidies so the reason for them wanting to leave cannot be financial. It would be mad for them to turn their backs on subsidies.
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I guess when you have two horrible terrorist attacks in your country in a short period of time you want change no matter what it is.
 
RandomJ said:
I guess when you have two horrible terrorist attacks in your country in a short period of time you want change no matter what it is.
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They will repent at leisure that's for sure. Europe crumbling under attack from on a global scale a small handful of nutters and all will be worse for it. Character and fortitude killed by a couple of generations of greedy self focused consumer obsessed people . It's pretty sad.

It seems in the 80's and since in the western world all values other than the pursuit of money for the individual have slowly eroded
 
The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.
 
Malty said:
The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.
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Leaving the UK like it - that is a whole new argument
 
Malty said:
The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.
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where and when did 'they' say this?
 
Malty said:
The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.
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Oh yeah, i can see hundreds of thousands of British kids going without water, shelter or food, getting bombed and losing parents every day of the week if we let anyone else in..

fucking bollox
 
Don't know why people are arguing about this. 54% of this forum are voting out, I imagine that the British public will be of a similar if not greater % of outers.
I'm voting out, we will be fine as we always have been if we are out.
 
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