Spanish police

I haven't had chance to read all the twelve pages before my post as I only returned at three this morning and now work is callling but the stories I have heard from genuine, decent blues who were on level three is sickening. A lady witnessed far worse violence than that captured on camera. Another young lady saw a lad beaten with batons for taking out his phone to record the attacks. He was beaten and then dragged out and she did not see him again. I have no reason to doubt the lady who I spent time with on the day of the match and met last night. It is not a crime to take a vid on your phone and that is what youngsters do, to be beaten savagley by police for doing just that is a disgrace.
 
Blue Mist said:
I haven't had chance to read all the twelve pages before my post as I only returned at three this morning and now work is callling but the stories I have heard from genuine, decent blues who were on level three is sickening. A lady witnessed far worse violence than that captured on camera. Another young lady saw a lad beaten with batons for taking out his phone to record the attacks. He was beaten and then dragged out and she did not see him again. I have no reason to doubt the lady who I spent time with on the day of the match and met last night. It is not a crime to take a vid on your phone and that is what youngsters do, to be beaten savagley by police for doing just that is a disgrace.
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There were unprovoked assaults all over the place mate - I had my own little meeting with them for daring to make my way up the steps to my seat from the concourse. If I'd been acting like a dick, I'd be the first one to hold my hands up but I don't think attempting to take my seat constitutes acting like a dick. There's a vid on the MEN site but it doesn't even tell a fraction of the story as that's just one incident. Some daft comments on there saying the fans brought it on themselves - sure, there are a few remonstrating with the police but that doesn't warrant being attacked. Not only that, but at the very start of the video you see a girl being consoled by someone so some bad shit has obviously gone on that wasn't caught on camera.
 
M18CTID said:
When I collected my ticket and wristband on Tuesday, City were saying Madrid police had requested passports be taken to the game as opposed to other photo id which is what the original letter and e-mail from the club said.
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Fair dos, I misunderstood!
 
M18CTID said:
There were unprovoked assaults all over the place mate - I had my own little meeting with them for daring to make my way up the steps to my seat from the concourse. If I'd been acting like a dick, I'd be the first one to hold my hands up but I don't think attempting to take my seat constitutes acting like a dick. There's a vid on the MEN site but it doesn't even tell a fraction of the story as that's just one incident. Some daft comments on there saying the fans brought it on themselves - sure, there are a few remonstrating with the police but that doesn't warrant being attacked. Not only that, but at the very start of the video you see a girl being consoled by someone so some bad shit has obviously gone on that wasn't caught on camera.
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That was the point I was trying to make. That vid is nothing to the stories I heard on the flight back to Bristol last night and it wasn't 'drunken Blues' or 'idiots who wanted trouble'. After the match whilst still inside the stadium (tier 4) there was a line of riot cops but it was noticable one was stood in front of his gang. I saw him shove a child aged, I am guessing, about 10. He did it for only one reason, he wanted the childs dad to react (or other Blues nearby) fortunatley no one did. I couldn't see the look of disapointment on the shite because Mr Hard man had his visor down but he wanted to provoke trouble.
 
This is unrelated to the violence but here is a quetion for City. Why was there an entire row and a half of Madrid fans, with children in Madrid shirts sat in the fourth tier ? it was around row 5 - 6? and all left after 80 minutes to avoid being kettled.
 
squirtyflower said:
Well how come I've never been asked for it?
And if you read the letter City sent it was Photo ID, which is normal in Spain, it was City that changed it on the day.
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When I collected my ticket, I was told photo ID not necessarily passport at the stadium. I took my driving license and no-one asked to see it anyway.
 
west didsblue said:
When I collected my ticket, I was told photo ID not necessarily passport at the stadium. I took my driving license and no-one asked to see it anyway.
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Same here. Some of the lads were told passport only so I think it depended on who served you when you picked up the tickets. They didn't ask to see it at the entrance to the stadium anyway.
 
stony said:
I'm sure the club are bothered and will investigate. Expecting them to fund legal expenses to sue the police is ludicrous.
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what did the club do in the 2012 after 2012 in madrid could the club not have told the police before the match they will have there people watching and filming what happens
 
cheddar404 said:
Same here. Some of the lads were told passport only so I think it depended on who served you when you picked up the tickets. They didn't ask to see it at the entrance to the stadium anyway.
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I wasn't asked to show it once I got in the queue (crowd) at the stadium but the police made me and my mate show ours with our tickets to actually get from the road running down the side of the stadium to the stadium itself. I guess it depended on which twat you happened to deal with and what mood they were in at the moment you tried to get past them.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I wasn't asked to show it once I got in the queue (crowd) at the stadium but the police made me and my mate show ours with our tickets to actually get from the road running down the side of the stadium to the stadium itself. I guess it depended on which twat you happened to deal with and what mood they were in at the moment you tried to get past them.
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Yeah, basically the whole thing was a shambles.
 
City should make representation to UEFA and Cameron get him to call in the Spanish Ambassador to explain the actions of those police, I'm still fuming over it and the more I read it just confirms I'll never go there again.
 
Nothing will happen, it will be the same every year. As a country we dont seem to have the balls to stand up to countries over football. They are allowed to treat us however they see fit. Yet fans come to Manchester and are treated like royalty.
 
Blue Maverick said:
City should make representation to UEFA and Cameron get him to call in the Spanish Ambassador to explain the actions of those police, I'm still fuming over it and the more I read it just confirms I'll never go there again.
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You'd have thought that if the complaint reaches someone as high up as that then something should get done. I find it astonishing how the Madrid police don't appear to be accountable to anybody for their actions. This has happened numerous times before and will continue to do so. What makes it worse in terms of getting something done about it is that a poster earlier in this thread said they behave exactly the same way towards their own citizens who turn up at peaceful demos. If their own people are getting a raw deal off the police, then us non-locals are pissing in the wind.
 
Without wanting to fall out again with Blues but can we keep this on topic. I am not interested in the ticket colection process as it will derail a very important issue about Nasty THUG COPS. The two ladies I spoke to both (seperately) said they were going to contact City about what they saw, there is also a post a man seen collapsed on the spiral, I saw him on the floor being attended to, there is a post that suggests a woman steward pulled him over, is that correct ?

The violence that was handed out last night needs to be addressed by Uefa City and Madrid, I am not sure it will but if enough pressure is put on them who knows.
 
mekonmcfc said:
Nothing will happen, it will be the same every year. As a country we dont seem to have the balls to stand up to countries over football. They are allowed to treat us however they see fit. Yet fans come to Manchester and are treated like royalty.
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Last week in Shambles Sq was a disgrace - City and Madrid fans drinking together and then the GMP turned up and told us we weren't welcome and they only wanted Madrid fans there....in a bar that is used by City fans at every home game!
 
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