EU referendum

[Tim of the Oak]

A lot of expats eventually come back to the UK when they get to the age where they need a lot of medical and social care.

Maybe these guys should be subject to the same immigration controls many on here believe are appropriate for nationals from other EU countries.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

I would argue it is a very good indicator. The clue is in the knaresborough bit.

You would and you would be wrong, again.

Typical left wing answer entrenched views I am afraid. Spending other people's money is so easy.

As you are here.
Spending and stealing other people's money is a tory trait.
It's why Labour continually do better with the economy.

 

[BigJoe#1]

People should be working together to deal with the issues not dividing to allow them to continue

News alert. They're not! Still people come!

 

[EalingBlue2]

Your just talking shit. Night.

It's true and if you cannot accept basic self evident facts how can Brexit ever have credibility. It doesn't work to put your fingers in your ears and pretend.... As for the 15p tax you were happy to pay comments since put a lie to that one....

 

[worsleyweb]

You would and you would be wrong, again.

No I am correct if someone has a place in the uk before a name I would imagine they would be from that place.

As you are here.
Spending and stealing other people's money is a tory trait.
It's why Labour continually do better with the economy.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Cheers for the laugh last thing at night. What did that post it say" good luck there is no money let?"

 

[KenTheLandlord]

But we cannot do that whilst people have nowhere to live and these additional so will need homes - homes which do not exist or if they do they are out of reach to these people.

We must solve the immediate problem first, then consider adding to our number.

With regard to younger people supporting older... We have lots of young unemployed people in this country today.... Here's a thought, why not reduce the retirement age, free up jobs for the younger generation so they can pay taxes and get on the employment ladder. Fanciful I know but...

Nothing is being done because we have a government that could not give a fuck. That will not change until October with a bit of luck, then they can be booted.

Uff you cannot do the last bit, you would be hounded as a Corbynite, Shame on you for having some forethought.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Cheers for the laugh last thing at night. What did that post it say" good luck there is no money let?"

Probably should have what the tories do. Lie that there is £1000000000 laying about whilst not having the money for a post it.

Anyhow well done Gidiot tick tock http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

 

[west didsblue]

Maybe these guys should be subject to the same immigration controls many on here believe are appropriate for nationals from other EU countries.

Apart from the obvious fact that they're British and are entitled to come back under international law, the vast majority of expats in Spain paid taxes and NI in the UK for their whole working life which to my mind entitles them to receive whatever care they need in their old age.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Nothing is being done because we have a government that could not give a fuck. That will not change until October with a bit of luck, then they can be booted.

Uff you cannot do the last bit, you would be hounded as a Corbynite, Shame on you for having some forethought.

Would that be the same government that is pleading with me to vote Remain? Enough of a reason on its own to leave. I known Johnson and Gove are equally dispicable as human beings.

Vote leave, get rid of the Tories, have a hung Labour administration and gone jobs a good 'un!

 

[sir baconface]

It's why Labour continually do better with the economy.

Classic.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Would that be the same government that is pleading with me to vote Remain? Enough of a reason on its own to leave. I known Johnson and Gove are equally dispicable as human beings.

Vote leave, get rid of the Tories, have a hung Labour administration and gone jobs a good 'un!

Leave and then have them muppets running around unchecked. Sod that, i'm in.
Vote stay, provide the EU with some more spine and support, block TTIP, do not run off and then with a cohesive plan move forward.
As the Union states.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Would that be the same government that is pleading with me to vote Remain? Enough of a reason on its own to leave. I known Johnson and Gove are equally dispicable as human beings.

Vote leave, get rid of the Tories, have a hung Labour administration and gone jobs a good 'un!

If the EU put a carrot to the Celtic nations and they voted back in , would you move to England?

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Classic.

Dont tell me you fall for old shit that the tories do a good job with the economy.
ffs

 

[BigJoe#1]

If the EU put a carrot to the Celtic nations and they voted back in , would you move to England?

I am pretty bloody confident that will not be the case, pretty confident indeed.

Why do you ask?

 

[sir baconface]

Dont tell me you fall for old shit that the tories do a good job with the economy.
ffs

Please stop. My sides are already splitting.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Please stop. My sides are already splitting.

amazing, you do, ahh well.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Apart from the obvious fact that they're British and are entitled to come back under international law, the vast majority of expats in Spain paid taxes and NI in the UK for their whole working life which to my mind entitles them to receive whatever care they need in their old age.

But they spend their pensions in Spain!
Legal but not very patriotic IMHO!

I am not sure whether these ex-pats should be allowed a vote. Many will have paid taxes here (as you said) but not all!

Anyway, with the housing crisis Worsleyweb mentioned, it's probably better if large number continue to move out to Spain.

 

[west didsblue]

But they spend their pensions in Spain!
Legal but not very patriotic IMHO!

I am not sure whether these ex-pats should be allowed a vote. Many will have paid taxes here (as you said) but not all!

Anyway, with the housing crisis Worsleyweb mentioned, it's probably better if large number continue to move out to Spain.

You're right. We should deduct a proportion of their pensions equivalent to what they'd be paying in VAT if they were here;-)

 

[The perfect fumble]

You do talk in riddles. If we are short of houses and we need to build more what do we do? 20 plus years in property, weekly meetings with councils and government officers and I await your earth shattering answer to the crisis. I am genuinely excited at you telling me I am running in the ring direction. Please tell me the answer to a huge under supply of houses?

Build them.

Bring in the "Housing Crisis Bill" look at whatever is holding you back and be rid of it, mobilise manpower, land and resources and get it done.

You work with the tools you have, but they are inadequate, so imagine this were a national crisis, say like fighting a war in the South Atlantic, looks at what is needed and bring in to public control all the things required, if laws stand in the way change them.

Devote the resources to getting it done.

Under the present government that simply will never happen. You work in a circumstance with defined powers, I have no doubt you know every inch of them, if those powers were to expand ten fold what could you do with that?

I was watching a debate the other day, there was an American speaker that said it would be impossible today to build the interstate highway system Eisenhower built in the 50's or to put a man on the moon as they did in the 60's because there simply isn't the political will.

After the war we cleared the slums and built thousands of council houses, we nationalised the health service, but as Andy Burnham stated during the leadership elections last year we could not do that today.

 

[EalingBlue2]

I am pretty bloody confident that will not be the case, pretty confident indeed.

Why do you ask?

I agree in that I think it is very unlikely, it's just that I think the less wealthy parts of Wales will suffer more than anything from Brexit so whilst it is a small chance, if Scotland goes and a Tory government is permanent it is not beyond impossible. I wondered if you felt so strongly against the EU that you would move?