EU referendum

[grunge]

Except without our contribution the French farming industry subsidies would drop as a matter of course (Less money in the pot to go around) leaving them to try and compete with east European farmers on price alone.
Germany does indeed pay more than it gets (Think it will increase its own contributions to make up a UK exit do you ?), but its industries sell a lot to Britain, and according to you that will cease without a trade deal in place (Again a load of bollocks, the simple fact is there is no major market place waiting to take all their cars, so its lay off time or trade freely).

If thats your grasp on history then ignorant clap trap is a description best applied to your infantile uttering.

Don't the French pay most of our rebate beacuse of the subsidies, if they were not paying us the rebate they could use that cash to give to the farmers.

 

[grunge]

Yet again, an assumption that economics are all that matter.

Do you actually read the thread or just randomly take posts to comment on?. It was a direct response to people who were getting VAT duty and tariffs confused.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Do you actually read the thread or just randomly take posts to comment on?. It was a direct response to people who were getting VAT duty and tariffs confused.

The Brexiters would make VAT on fuel disappear with their magic wand lol!

 

[CatMan]

The choice is simple.

Vote Leave for a United Kingdom!

Vote Remain and make it Somebody Else's Kingdom!

Do not give the sovereignty of your country away because you are scared and worried about what might happen.

If those who went before you did the same when they were faced with the adversity of war then you wouldn't be in your privileged position today.

In short, this country is not yours to give away. It belongs to those who gave their lives to protect it in generations past.

Next time you are near a war memorial take time to stop, read the names and realise they were young men who gave their all so you can enjoy this nation.

Do not sell your national identity because you have no balls and are not up for the fight. It's time to bloody grow some and Vote Leave.

 

[sir baconface]

NORWAY IS NOT THE FIFTH BIGGEST ECONOMY ON THE F*CKING PLANET, Sorry to have to shout but you seem oblivious to the simple fact we are not Norway and can not be compared to Norway in any way, shape, or form.

Congratulations on a) missing the point entirely and b) posting a load of ignorant clap trap. You seem unaware that Germany and France are also nett contributors to the EU. They don't rely on subsidies from the UK but do understand that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

From the tone of your post and your (irrelevant to the issue) historical reference it seems you want us to go back to the days of simply trading cloth for wine with Portugal who are, er, in the EU. Even better let's go back to the days when we got half the population of coastal China addicted to opium so we could screw highly favourable trading concessions out of their government. I'm sure that would work just fine all over again.

His point was that we have a lot more clout than Norway. And you are rambling on about Portugese cloth and Chinese crack-heads. Maybe you are into CR7 thongs?

 

[AlgarveBlu]

For most of that 900 years there was no trading block in Europe. Britain didn't "manage perfectly well" when it was outside the European trading block and other nations were in the block. That is why Britain joined, and that will be the position again if Britain chooses to exit the EU.

Not sure if your a Swedish blue in the uk or living in Sweden - if the latter do you have any theories why your neighbors either side of you have very contrasting fortunes? Norway I understand are very anti eu and I believe the second richest nation in Europe - Finland are now entering the 4th year of a recession and I read that many blame the euro for their economic woes and the collapse of Nokia - do you not see that situation as completely unrelated to the eu?

 

[sir baconface]

Do you actually read the thread or just randomly take posts to comment on?. It was a direct response to people who were getting VAT duty and tariffs confused.

Yes, I read the thread and pick up on weak posts from inners. That's not random - it's actually selective.

 

[grunge]

Yes, I read the thread and pick up on weak posts from inners. That's not random - it's selective.

What total Bollocks. selectively quoting a ( correct ) response, point out some random issue with it that had nothing to do with the thread at the time, perhaps you should Go tell the outers that were talking crap that it's not all bout the pound.

 

[sir baconface]

What total Bollocks. selectively quoting a ( correct ) response, point out some random issue with it that had nothing to do with the thread at the time, perhaps you should Go tell the outers that were talking crap that it's not all bout the pound.

You tell 'em mate. You clearly have a talent for getting your point across.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

The choice is simple.

Vote Leave for a United Kingdom!

Vote Remain and make it Somebody Else's Kingdom!

Do not give the sovereignty of your country away because you are scared and worried about what might happen.

If those who went before you did the same when they were faced with the adversity of war then you wouldn't be in your privileged position today.

In short, this country is not yours to give away. It belongs to those who gave their lives to protect it in generations past.

Next time you are near a war memorial take time to stop, read the names and realise they were young men who gave their all so you can enjoy this nation.

Do not sell your national identity because you have no balls and are not up for the fight. It's time to bloody grow some and Vote Leave.

I like the cut of your jib.

 

[YPhrunts]

The choice is simple.

Vote Leave for a United Kingdom!

Vote Remain and make it Somebody Else's Kingdom!

Do not give the sovereignty of your country away because you are scared and worried about what might happen.

If those who went before you did the same when they were faced with the adversity of war then you wouldn't be in your privileged position today.

In short, this country is not yours to give away. It belongs to those who gave their lives to protect it in generations past.

Next time you are near a war memorial take time to stop, read the names and realise they were young men who gave their all so you can enjoy this nation.

Do not sell your national identity because you have no balls and are not up for the fight. It's time to bloody grow some and Vote Leave.

Good post and well put. Thanks

 

[grunge]

You tell 'em mate. You clearly have a talent for getting your point across.

I'm assuming your on some weird roundabout Arse about face trolling session cos your making no sense.

 

[stonerblue]

Martin Schulz was voted as president of the EU by a vote of all MEPs, in a similar way that the Speaker of the House of Commons is elected by MPs in the UK parliament. In Schiulz case, he was elected to the EU Parlaiment by the voters of a constituency in Germany , the same way any other MEP is elected and therfore has a mandate from the people and has the right to vote, in the same way as an MP can vote in the UK.

Jean-Claude Juncker is also voted for by MEPs in the European Parliament, but since there is no necessity for the President of the European Commission to be an elected MEP, i.e elected by a popular vote, he has no voting rights himself.

Donald Tusk was chosen by the political leaders of the member nations of the EU. As with Juncker, there is no pre-requisite of a popular vote to the Council for the role and so the President of the European Council has no voting rights in the Council (although they could if he/she was also a sitting political head of a member state, like Cameron).

You see, this is the sort of shit we need more of. Cheers blueish.

 

[smudgedj]

As I posted yesterday, the leave campaign is forever telling us that Norway got themselves a trade deal with the EU. That's true but what they haven't been telling us is that to obtain that trade deal they had to agree to unlimited immigration from any and all EU countries. That would also apply to us so we'd be right back where we started except that we'd be on the outside looking in and have no influence on future policy. It's nowhere near as simplistic as the likes of Johnson, Gove and Farage are making out and they're being dishonest to pretend that it is.

No body cares about norways trade deal with the UK. It´s a different country with different rules and regulations for it´s people.

 

[hgblue]

No body cares about norways trade deal with the UK. It´s a different country with different rules and regulations for it´s people.

If one more person says we will have the same trade deal with the EU as Norway I think my head will explode ;)

 

[Monkfish]

The choice is simple.

Vote Leave for a United Kingdom!

Vote Remain and make it Somebody Else's Kingdom!

Do not give the sovereignty of your country away because you are scared and worried about what might happen.

If those who went before you did the same when they were faced with the adversity of war then you wouldn't be in your privileged position today.

In short, this country is not yours to give away. It belongs to those who gave their lives to protect it in generations past.

Next time you are near a war memorial take time to stop, read the names and realise they were young men who gave their all so you can enjoy this nation.

Do not sell your national identity because you have no balls and are not up for the fight. It's time to bloody grow some and Vote Leave.

Cuntychops bollocks

 

[stonerblue]

NORWAY IS NOT THE FIFTH BIGGEST ECONOMY ON THE F*CKING PLANET, Sorry to have to shout but you seem oblivious to the simple fact we are not Norway and can not be compared to Norway in any way, shape, or form.

We are a trading nation and have managed perfectly well for the nine hundred years before the EU was dreamed up ( By a convicted criminal & lifelong communist no less Altiero Spinelli ), we are more than capable of making our own way with or without the f*cking EU, see who blinks first when the Germans have to start laying off car workers and the French try and explain the realities of life to its farmers without the massive subsidies we pay to keep them on their arses.

just a measely $2,7 BILLION, QUARTER PROFIT announced today by VW. On their fuckin arses.....

 

[Monkfish]

many blame the euro for their economic woes and the collapse of Nokia - do you not see that situation as completely unrelated to the eu?

The EU invented the iPhone? I knew the fuckers were sneaky

 

[stonerblue]

The choice is simple.

Vote Leave for a United Kingdom!

Vote Remain and make it Somebody Else's Kingdom!

Do not give the sovereignty of your country away because you are scared and worried about what might happen.

If those who went before you did the same when they were faced with the adversity of war then you wouldn't be in your privileged position today.

In short, this country is not yours to give away. It belongs to those who gave their lives to protect it in generations past.

Next time you are near a war memorial take time to stop, read the names and realise they were young men who gave their all so you can enjoy this nation.

Do not sell your national identity because you have no balls and are not up for the fight. It's time to bloody grow some and Vote Leave.

Total fucking shite. Who the fuck are you to speak on behalf of those that died in war. You make me sick.

 

[sir baconface]

Cuntychops bollocks

Your most lucid post to date.