EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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FanchesterCity said:
We are also forgetting a lot of small business or SME's who can sell across Europe with relative ease, with easy accounting and little concern for import and export duties etc.
It becomes harder for those guys.

We also have businesses whose name is protected like Melton Mobray and Cheddar Cheese - who will lose the automatic protection of that name in the EU - meaning others can manufacture Cheddar Cheese from wherever they like. Maybe not the end of the world for the country as a whole - but a hit for those workers manufacturing the real thing without protection.
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What about the majority of British Businesses that don't trade with the EU yet are still tied by he masses of red tape that eminates from there?
 
Does anyone really still pay any intention to what the politicians say about the referendum? Would people make a decision based on the relative debating skills of Cameron or Farage? Or their ability to keep their cool when interviewed ?

I doubt that we'll hear any useful new information from the leaders of the campaigns between now and voting day. They've already said anything of relevance that they have to say.
 
80s Shorts said:
It isn't a debate. They will both face questions from the same audience for around 30 minutes each. Farage first. They will not share the stage at any time.
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Ok - should still be good to see who comes across better. Shame it's not boris.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
What about the majority of British Businesses that don't trade with the EU yet are still tied by he masses of red tape that eminates from there?
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There is no majority that don't trade with them. The massive majority who trade internationally trade with the EU. Trading with the EU is typically the easiest option for most UK businesses.

if you're referring to the general majority of businesses that just don't import or export at all...
Of those that don't do any international trade, it's difficult to suggest red tape is preventing them trading with Europe, as they are not trading elsewhere either - which suggests any barrier to international trade isn't an EU specific thing.

Even those that don't import or export directly - greengrocers / florists / self employed etc, many of their materials will be sourced or transported via the EU though, so they might still feel the effects of change (either way)
 
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I think political debate or Q&A sessions like this are good - in theory, but like most of politics these days, image is a huge factor and the oratory skills and backroom writers make a hell of a difference.
In the end, it's not easy to avoid being influenced by personalities as much as policy.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I am not making the point that we cannot trade with the EU? No-one's making that point and it would be a stupid and wrong suggestion. But businesses absolutely DO make their investment decisions for things like car plants based on factorslike import tariffs. And they might very well decide to leave the UK, or to shut the UK plant rather than another one, if they have excess capacity for example. You're in denial if you cannot get your head around this.
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I am not and I expected you to come back and say they might do if the Eu offered a whopping grant to Nissan to move.

But equally plenty of countries outside the European trade happily trade with the Eu. We would be in the same boat.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't know what you're trying to suggest by that. VAT rules on food, hot or cold, take away or eat in are complex in their own right.

The point is, there is no import duty on british food used in the UK, but there would be on American food brought into the UK. And Macdonalds use UK sourced food.

(Actually I am not suggesting that they only use UK-sourced food because of the duty advantage - there's a whole load of reasons why they do, and principally simply because it's more cost effective. It was you who brought up MacDonalds and I merely point out the flaw in your argument.)
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I am simply using a non eu company trading with an eu country like thousands of others . If we leave McDonald's is not going to close and relocate to Germany.

Vat mate is 20 percent and charged I have no idea what the import tariffs on buns.
 
Farage is reverting to his fall back of immigration and 'being told what to do'. They are great emotive soundbites, but he's struggling so far (on the ITV debate)
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I am simply using a non eu company trading with an eu country like thousands of others . If we leave McDonald's is not going to close and relocate to Germany.

Vat mate is 20 percent and charged I have no idea what the import tariffs on buns.
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McDonald's won't leave - of course not. The prices might change though - probably upwards.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Farage is reverting to his fall back of immigration and 'being told what to do'. They are great emotive soundbites, but he's struggling so far (on the ITV debate)
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To be fair, to him, a lot of the questions seem to be about his perceived image and immigration

The black women was an idiot and the bloke banging on about the pharmaceutical company was a bit of a dick as well
 
Blue Hefner said:
To be fair, to him, a lot of the questions seem to be about his perceived image and immigration

The black women was an idiot and the bloke banging on about the pharmaceutical company was a bit of a dick as well
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I've absolutely no time for Farage but they were daft questions.

The fella in the white shirt had the right idea, put a bit of research into your question.
 
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