EU referendum

[argyle]

Well said -the shallowness in the Remain argument is that they try to stigmatise the Leave position as being AGAINST immigration when in fact we just want control. That is most likely that wanting to be in control is entirely sensible and cannot be lazily labelled.

Britain has less immigration and migration than other countries in Europe. We need extra workers in this country when there is an aging population soon to be on pensions with less people to pay for it.

Any rise in population has been exacerbated with a government cutting resources to local areas putting a strain on services at a time when these extra workers have settled.

No countries border controls are perfect but what the outers want is to bulldoze the house because they see a problem with the door.

 

[grunge]

Brilliant and very much on the money IMO

As the man say's

"caught between the devil and the deep blue TWATS"

Very accurate ( and sweary ) assessment of this Referendum,

 

[SWP's back]

I don't understand why anyone would give up a passport to be honest . I became a dual national as are my kids

Absolutely. My poor wife has a South African passport and it's about as much use as a post it note.

 

[Malty]

Brilliant and very much on the money IMO

As the man say's

"caught between the devil and the deep blue TWATS"

Spot on.

I think voting to Leave is the safest option.

Voting to stay now is a dead horse, as even if we stay it isn't a majority so the EU is basically dead as soon as the EU starts pissing people off who vote remain they will want to leave. It's a farce but voting to Leave atleast puts us in a position of power and closing our borders to open immigration so it doesn't destroy our resources.

We need to show some balls as a country.

 

[Pino]

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/13/transcript-of-pcr-interviewed-by-julian-charles-about-brexit/

Off topic a little but of great interest and a major reason to vote Brexit.
I have admired Ambrose Evans-Pritchard for his writing at the Daily Telegraph on Politics and Economics. There have been occasions I have been puzzled by his seemingly support of the failed neo-liberal and austerity frauds. This made me think he had been possibly suborned by the dark forces of the elites.
However he has come out solidly for Brexit and the reasons can be ascertained from the above link ,where he has an honorable mention going back over 10 years.

 

[smudgedj]

You're the one who iis challenging the status quo. You have the burden of prood.Ive made my point. You haven't. I'm off to bed.

BTW you may think you´re voting for the status quo but you´re not you´re voting for more integration.
Now try and make a positive case for your beloved European Union. Just exactly where will the 'project' be in 10, 15, 20 years time?

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Poor George is having a bit of a mare over his silly little threats, remember the rescission to end all rescission's with hundreds of thousands of jobs going down the pan, the one some foolish soul on here claimed would be like 911 ?

Hmmm. So in 2008 we lose 7% of GDP after a major economic collapse.

And the treasusry are estimating that if Brexit happens, we will have 4 quarters of GDP loss of only 0.1% each quarter. And thats if the Government decides to sit on its arse and not try to rectify anything.

So is this the economic disaster the remainers keep warning us about if we leave the EU?

 

[halfcenturyup]

Again, many credible polls have shown that the number 1 concern for the majority of those voting out is immigration. Might not be for you but for the majority it is.

But again, that isn't what he was disputing. He was disputing the "don't care about the economy" and "racist" comment. It really isn't diffcult to understand.

 

[grunge]

So is this the economic disaster the remainers keep warning us about if we leave the EU?

No. The possible economic disaster would be if the Eurozone crumbled if we left which would cause a massive global recession that would make 2008 look like a walk in the park. But that is worst case scenario.

 

[blueonblue]

Can the remainians defend the "Facts" they try and hoodwink us with ?, not a f*cking chance.




To be fair I never liked his old man, but I at least believed he had some integrity in what he said, this c*nt is nothing more than a parrot repeating what others have fed him without the brains to see its utter shite.

 

[DavidSilvasLeftFoot]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

 

[YPhrunts]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

You don't see the irony of that statement?
What you want is to be told what to do by the old men and women in Brussels without any recourse to remove them from office if they don't meet your expectation.
Basically you are a yes man.
There are a lot of them about at the moment.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Can the remainians defend the "Facts" they try and hoodwink us with ?, not a f*cking chance.




To be fair I never liked his old man, but I at least believed he had some integrity in what he said, this c*nt is nothing more than a parrot repeating what others have fed him without the brains to see its utter shite.

This is true. I didn't agree with many of Benn's policies, but I could respect him because you could see he believed what he was saying, and he was consistent, and he kept fighting for his principles even when they weren't popular. Same with Dennis Skinner. mad as a bag of frogs, but an old-school poltician you can believe in as a person. You realy wouldn't buy anything from any current politicians, would you?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

Are you old enough to vote?

I only ask because you don't sound like you have a grip on this at all.
Could you tell me what will happen tomorrow? Could you tell me who will win the prem next season? Could you tell me what will happen if we remain in the EU?
To say you are not basing your future on I don't know is a little naive. Nobody fucking knows!! You go on to dismiss your grandmothers views despite her having been there and you not. Then comes the coup de grace, The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. Where the fuck are you getting that idea from?

 

[YPhrunts]

Can the remainians defend the "Facts" they try and hoodwink us with ?, not a f*cking chance.




To be fair I never liked his old man, but I at least believed he had some integrity in what he said, this c*nt is nothing more than a parrot repeating what others have fed him without the brains to see its utter shite.

This apple fell a long way from the tree.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

Make your own mind up for the reasons that are important to you but there are some inconsistencies in this reasoning.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

Just out of interest, why do you care what foreign politicians say on this matter?

 

[Malscigar]

Vote leave

 

[Chippy_boy]

Vote leave, vote poor

Edited for accuracy.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Nigel Farage recently came out and said he doesn't know what will happen if we leave the EU. This is a guy that's devoted decades of his life to the cause of leaving the EU and has been the movement's poster boy. Sorry but I'm not basing my future on "I don't know". It's not good enough. I don't want to live in a nationalistic isolationist country, I wan't to be a part of something bigger.

I don't want old men and women to decide my future for me. My own grandmother told me when I said i was voting to remain that I'm too young to understand and that everything was better before. Before? Like during the Cold War when everyone hated each other or ww2 when everyone was killing each other? The good old days? The EU is more democratic than our own parliamentary system. For Leave voters it doesn't matter what the experts say, they will dismiss everything as "scare tactics" or "lefty nonsense".

The only foreign politicians that support Brexit are Marine La Penn, Donald Trump, and Vladimir Putin.

Would it allay your concerns if you were to be persuaded the Farage will be nowhere near government should we vote to leave?