EU referendum

[inchy14]

And old and uneducated.

I argued that with the Aussie tosser last week, they just can't accept people don't have the same opinion of themselves so they throw accusations around trying to quieten us down.

The EU is failing that's why we need to be out.

Apart from Yaya-Tony not one of the 'inners' want's to be in anyway, they all want to stand at the edges cherry picking what they see as is the best bits but not the whole thing, the majority of the 'inners' are the biggest hypocrites here.

If you want to be 'IN', then be 'IN' properly and join the Euro and everything that entails.

 

[Mike D]

The irony of using sweeping generalisations and labelling 30million people as rascist and all the same is lost on you....

Why do you really think that 30 million are going to vote leave?

 

[inchy14]

Then perhaps you need to look either back in your closet or you've missed the central message of what vote leave is all about.

I know what i want to leave for, i'm not interested in what Farage wants as he'll never be in a powerfull position to do anything about it.

What i will say is you're a fucking **** for labelling anyone who disagrees with your view point as racist/xenophobic and it's people like you who have forced the immigration debate underground in the first point.

 

[manctheknife]

Beckham has announced he is backing remain and will mark the remain box with his Crayola. That's it now decision sorted, I am backing remain.

And would it be 'amazing' if we all voted remain?...is that the general thrust of his argument?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Why do you really think that 30 million are going to vote leave?

20 25 30 I don't know. But the polls show it as close so if there are over 60 million in this country then do the maths....

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Beckham - where does this c#nt get off??

 

[Monkfish]

Beckham - where does this c#nt get off??

you didn't want any more experts, we give you a non-expert and still you grumble

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Don't agree, at all. Pure speculation. In fact it's deliberately misleading.

We know the likelihood of TTIP facing the EU at present, and there is no basis, at all, for you to say it'd be the safer option to remain in the EU with that great probability - than secure the out vote and having it being one of many issues put to our own electorate in a general election.

That, is democracy.

It will be out of our hands if we vote to remain part of the EU.

Far from misleading.
It is very much in our hands if we vote to remain in the EU.

 

[SWP's back]

That's because we'd lost before the votes were counted. The Permanent Repeesentatives (Head of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in Brussels and his / her equivalents) meet in the days before the Council of Ministers meet. By that stage it is usually clear who has enough votes to win so the 40 or so defeats are protest votes. That said, sometimes last minute compromises are reached between Ministers. We have been on the successful side of the vote 98 percent of the time IIRC.

I understand where you're coming from but that's a bit like when the refs association say they get 98% of decisions right (which is fairly easy when a six year old could call 90% of them correctly)

 

[abu13]

The countries biggest issue is apathy, this is a real chance for change.

Will it be a change for the best? who knows but nothing evolves from standing still and it takes brave strong people to stand up for change.

This may be the one and only shot we get at leaving the EU, as a previous poster said if you believe we should stay in the EU then go the whole hog and go balls deep, take on the euro etc..

For me i'm voting leave, whatever happens we will have to adapt and i'm sick to death of all the scare mongering that goes on.

 

[dave_blue12]

More informed facts and opinion from Professor Dougan. Once again I would urge all to read. This guy is a genuine expert on the EU.

This is a quote taken from facebook regarding Prof. Dougan

Argued with my wife last night to try and convince her to vote leave on the basis of what I believed from statements issued by the leave campaign. I am so glad to have watched and learnt from Prof Dougan's talk - clearly the only way is IN and I shall be eating humble pie tonight. I hope everyone sees this video so that they can take a decision based on fact and experience.

https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2016/0...ponds-industrial-dishonesty-video-goes-viral/

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I argued that with the Aussie tosser last week, they just can't accept people don't have the same opinion of themselves so they throw accusations around trying to quieten us down.

The EU is failing that's why we need to be out.

Apart from Yaya-Tony not one of the 'inners' want's to be in anyway, they all want to stand at the edges cherry picking what they see as is the best bits but not the whole thing, the majority of the 'inners' are the biggest hypocrites here.

If you want to be 'IN', then be 'IN' properly and join the Euro and everything that entails.

Yep, let's go into the fucking thing properly if we're going to be in it, immediately join the Euro, as that's what is needed to be good Europeans,
get Turkey in, pave the road to Ankara, fuck the army off and start lobbying for an EU one, and make sure Neil Kinnock, his family and his descendants have cushy non jobs in perpetuity.

 

[EalingBlue2]

I argued that with the Aussie tosser last week, they just can't accept people don't have the same opinion of themselves so they throw accusations around trying to quieten us down.

The EU is failing that's why we need to be out.

Apart from Yaya-Tony not one of the 'inners' want's to be in anyway, they all want to stand at the edges cherry picking what they see as is the best bits but not the whole thing, the majority of the 'inners' are the biggest hypocrites here.

If you want to be 'IN', then be 'IN' properly and join the Euro and everything that entails.

Were you not able to read the demographic make up of the polling data? It wasn't an argument it was the results of a survey and as you know with any survey it is about trends and not absolute

The polls show that the average Brexit voter is likely to be older and less highly educated


Argue away

 

[Monkfish]

as a previous poster said if you believe we should stay in the EU then go the whole hog and go balls deep, take on the euro etc..

it was a stupid idea when he posted it, and still a stupid idea when you repeated it

 

[GaudinoMotors]

you didn't want any more experts, we give you a non-expert and still you grumble

Did I?

 

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[EalingBlue2]

20 25 30 I don't know. But the polls show it as close so if there are over 60 million in this country then do the maths....

Only about 30 million people voted in the last general election would be amazed if either side got 20m

 

[CityStu]

Were you not able to read the demographic make up of the polling data? It wasn't an argument it was the results of a survey and as you know with any survey it is about trends and not absolute

The polls show that the average Brexit voter is likely to be older and less highly educated


Argue away

As I've said before, there's a very obvious reason why the older Out voters are les likely to have degrees than the younger In voters. More young people have degrees. That doesn't make them any more intelligent.

 

[manctheknife]

Were you not able to read the demographic make up of the polling data? It wasn't an argument it was the results of a survey and as you know with any survey it is about trends and not absolute

The polls show that the average Brexit voter is likely to be older and less highly educated


Argue away

I'm older, and happy to play top trumps with anyone on here qualification wise, so it's clearly my inherent racism which guides the major decisions in my life....thanks for clearing that up for me.