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The Boxing thread
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Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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He's a tool
leighton
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Keith Thurman was great last night. Boxed really well. Aj done great too also George Groves looks like he is getting back to his best under SM.
Welterweight needs to do a Super 6 now. Some great fights to be made. You could have 4 US fighters in and 2 UK fighters in it.
Keith Thurman , Jessie Vargas , Kell Brook , Danny Garcia , Amir Khan and Errol Spence Jnr would be the dream combination of fighters. This division is jammed packed with talent. Time to find out who is the best of the lot now Manny and Money has gone.
Welterweight needs to do a Super 6 now. Some great fights to be made. You could have 4 US fighters in and 2 UK fighters in it.
Keith Thurman , Jessie Vargas , Kell Brook , Danny Garcia , Amir Khan and Errol Spence Jnr would be the dream combination of fighters. This division is jammed packed with talent. Time to find out who is the best of the lot now Manny and Money has gone.
staffs_blue
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Agree about a welterweight super 6. I have been saying it for ages. The division is packed full of quality. Tim Bradley could arguably be in there instead of Vargas cos Brook will beat him when they fight. Bud Crawford could move up and be in there aswell!Keith Thurman was great last night. Boxed really well. Aj done great too also George Groves looks like he is getting back to his best under SM.
Welterweight needs to do a Super 6 now. Some great fights to be made. You could have 4 US fighters in and 2 UK fighters in it.
Keith Thurman , Jessie Vargas , Kell Brook , Danny Garcia , Amir Khan and Errol Spence Jnr would be the dream combination of fighters. This division is jammed packed with talent. Time to find out who is the best of the lot now Manny and Money has gone.
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That's a great ideaKeith Thurman was great last night. Boxed really well. Aj done great too also George Groves looks like he is getting back to his best under SM.
Welterweight needs to do a Super 6 now. Some great fights to be made. You could have 4 US fighters in and 2 UK fighters in it.
Keith Thurman , Jessie Vargas , Kell Brook , Danny Garcia , Amir Khan and Errol Spence Jnr would be the dream combination of fighters. This division is jammed packed with talent. Time to find out who is the best of the lot now Manny and Money has gone.
leighton
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The last Super 6 worked well with Froch and Ward but you would want to get all the World Champions involved. Now will all of Golden Boy , Matchroom and Al Hamon guys all work to get it sorted is the biggest question. Then the tv networks will fight it out for the rights.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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The last Super 6 worked well with Froch and Ward but you would want to get all the World Champions involved. Now will all of Golden Boy , Matchroom and Al Hamon guys all work to get it sorted is the biggest question. Then the tv networks will fight it out for the rights.
Never happen bud.... Haymon is the one to watch, he also controls most of the networks, he pretty much invented the current monetary deals for PPV, he doesn't need the other promoters to make money. The purist would love it, however, there's nothing pure about the modern day Don King...
leighton
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Never happen bud.... Haymon is the one to watch, he also controls most of the networks, he pretty much invented the current monetary deals for PPV, he doesn't need the other promoters to make money. The purist would love it, however, there's nothing pure about the modern day Don King...
Regarding the Super 6 Al Haymon has Amir Khan , Errol Spence , Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia getting the other 2 champions to sign up you would think would be easy to sort out. Would sell a lot of tickets both in the UK and US. They could do a double header a bill in the uk and us a night of boxing be huge. Haymon is looking at the British market but Hearn has the sky nights sorted and to get on Sky with that extra revenue is key for this working.
CitytillIdie74
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Also it looks like Brook is being dodged by the champs until he becomes a mandatory, which is a real shame as he needs to fight better opponents and actually have a fight on his hands cos at the moment this guy is cruising in 2nd gearNever happen bud.... Haymon is the one to watch, he also controls most of the networks, he pretty much invented the current monetary deals for PPV, he doesn't need the other promoters to make money. The purist would love it, however, there's nothing pure about the modern day Don King...
leighton
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Does anyone know whether Terry Flanagan will still fight in Manchester on July 9th now Tyson Fury has withdrawn?
I think its off mate. They aint got it on any schedules which is mad. Only if Terry got a injury we dont know about he should of boxed as he is world champion.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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Regarding the Super 6 Al Haymon has Amir Khan , Errol Spence , Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia getting the other 2 champions to sign up you would think would be easy to sort out. Would sell a lot of tickets both in the UK and US. They could do a double header a bill in the uk and us a night of boxing be huge. Haymon is looking at the British market but Hearn has the sky nights sorted and to get on Sky with that extra revenue is key for this working.
Mate the ticket sales are all well and good, it's the PPV money where the dollars are... And amir Khan? Give over Leighton, who in their right mind pays to watch him?? He was matched with Canelo, not because of his draw but the whipping he was going to take ..There's no risk for Haymon doing what he does already, he's merely waiting on the next PPV extravaganza, the super 6 isn't it, more than likely it will involve GGG, which he'll have a part of!!
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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Also it looks like Brook is being dodged by the champs until he becomes a mandatory, which is a real shame as he needs to fight better opponents and actually have a fight on his hands cos at the moment this guy is cruising in 2nd gear
Brook takes his belt too seriously imo bud, he needs to follow the suit of calzaghe now (even though it was late in the day) and make a fight in the states, he's missing the boat because he wants to be the home fighter... He has the skills to be a success over there, he lacks belief!!!
NipHolmes
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Brook takes his belt too seriously imo bud, he needs to follow the suit of calzaghe now (even though it was late in the day) and make a fight in the states, he's missing the boat because he wants to be the home fighter... He has the skills to be a success over there, he lacks belief!!!
Calzaghe only really broke free once his injuries calmed and his deal with Warren was coming to an end.
Brooks father is his advisor and is keen yo keep his lad away from wars and keep his 0. Brook is desperate for Khan for the payday and the as he sees him as the weakest of the top names. Brook never keen on Garcia, Bradley or Thurman.
Latics Fan SJK
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Disagree with that bud.Calzaghe only really broke free once his injuries calmed and his deal with Warren was coming to an end.
Brooks father is his advisor and is keen yo keep his lad away from wars and keep his 0. Brook is desperate for Khan for the payday and the as he sees him as the weakest of the top names. Brook never keen on Garcia, Bradley or Thurman.
Brook wants them all, but the problem is Hearn thinking Brook is the A-side in every negotiation. I think Brook is genuine WC, however you can see why potential opposition see him as the B-side (when you're talking the likes of Garcia, Bradley etc) because of the respective CVs of those fighters.
Garcia wanted a reported £8m to come to England and fight Brook. I think Hearn needs to put his own ego to one side and get Brook fighting a name in the US even if it means less money. If Brook takes out either of Garcia, Bradley or Thurman then he'll have more of a right to big himself up. Up to now, Porter is his only notable scalp.
I'd fancy Brook to beat both Garcia & Bradley. The Thurman fight is the most evenly-fought IMO.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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Calzaghe only really broke free once his injuries calmed and his deal with Warren was coming to an end.
Brooks father is his advisor and is keen yo keep his lad away from wars and keep his 0. Brook is desperate for Khan for the payday and the as he sees him as the weakest of the top names. Brook never keen on Garcia, Bradley or Thurman.
It's a common mistake to think warren wasn't trying to get the best deals for joe, he was avoided like the plague after the way he dismantled lacy, that also goes for Jones jnr. Calzaghe was willing to step up at any time, again he was avoided as the reality was he would of dominated the division and the US cash cow would of been slaughtered...
Well if brooks dad has that influence he will never make the bread he should, never ever have a family member as your advisor, it clouds business...
As for his ability to beat those you mentioned, thurman would destroy Kell, imo... The other 2 more evenly matched...
Khan also won't touch brook, it would finish what little reputation he has left over here... That's a swan song fight if ever there was one!!
NipHolmes
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I am happy yo expand by PM but take as the absolute gospel that Brooks Dad has a lot of poke in Brooks life.
He has been known to opine to Warren that certain fighters should be avoided. Part of the reason Warren sacked Brook off was his lack of ticket sales and lack of desire for nasty fights.
I rate Brook but he is a paper champ. A lot like Joshua. A good fighter but not the elite they are proclaimed to be.
Brook is to Khan what Witter was to Hatton. Awkward, heavy hitting and a poor seller. Khan like Hatton target the box office fights, whereas Brook and Witter lived in hope of that one big fight.
Fwiw Zin, Warren pushed Joe hard towards the end as he felt Joe never got his dues from the public. He staked high on Kessler and got Hopkins after but Joe was shafted on that payout after he told Frank he wanted to go alone. R.J.J Joe gave 50/50 when he couldve got 60-70/40-30 split. Joe started to dislike Frank after a few stable mates started to struggle getting paid. That is why Frank has changed companies a few times and lost most his stable to Hearn.
He has been known to opine to Warren that certain fighters should be avoided. Part of the reason Warren sacked Brook off was his lack of ticket sales and lack of desire for nasty fights.
I rate Brook but he is a paper champ. A lot like Joshua. A good fighter but not the elite they are proclaimed to be.
Brook is to Khan what Witter was to Hatton. Awkward, heavy hitting and a poor seller. Khan like Hatton target the box office fights, whereas Brook and Witter lived in hope of that one big fight.
Fwiw Zin, Warren pushed Joe hard towards the end as he felt Joe never got his dues from the public. He staked high on Kessler and got Hopkins after but Joe was shafted on that payout after he told Frank he wanted to go alone. R.J.J Joe gave 50/50 when he couldve got 60-70/40-30 split. Joe started to dislike Frank after a few stable mates started to struggle getting paid. That is why Frank has changed companies a few times and lost most his stable to Hearn.
leighton
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Zin I still think a Khan fight will sell everywhere. He may well be shot but he lost nothing in his last defeat. He will drop back down and may well go on a run of wins and get a title fight by this time next year. I can see him winning a world title again how daft is that.
The Kell fight is huge in the UK and has to happen makes both men good money. I am liking British boxing at the moment the big fights are being made. Groves v Murray and Frampton v Quigg already this year to name 2 were big fights with big British fighters.
The Kell fight is huge in the UK and has to happen makes both men good money. I am liking British boxing at the moment the big fights are being made. Groves v Murray and Frampton v Quigg already this year to name 2 were big fights with big British fighters.
SuperKevinHorlock
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Does anyone know whether Terry Flanagan will still fight in Manchester on July 9th now Tyson Fury has withdrawn?
Now fighting in Cardiff on the 17th July mate.