Paul Pogba

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Stick by thoughts good player but not elite £100 plus mil player has some good moments but doesn't dominate.
 
Dr Jacoby said:
Perhaps it's just me but I would find it rather amusing if United paid £100m for a player they allowed to leave on a free transfer a few seasons ago.
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Don't kid yourself Mate. Pogba's a bloody good player, who will improve that shower of sh*t no end.
Wouldn't be in the least bit amused if he went there.... at any price
 
Ric said:
Shh, to be a top blue you have to pretend he's shit now!
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I know the above is a joke, but to run with it by taking it seriously...

I don't think there are actually that many people who touted the signed of Pogba when we were favorites to sign him, only to downplay his ability when it became likely he'd go elsewhere (specifically across town). I just think there are two sides in most transfers, and one side is more inclined to post when the transfer looks likely, and one side more likely to chip in its two cents when it looks like it's off.

I think Pogba's great. I also think the terms being bandied about are financially irresponsible, and would've had a negative overall effect on our club. I think I piped up once or twice on the thread when things looked favorable (in its previous War & Peace form), but by and large didn't want to rain on everyone's parade by playing the part of Debby Downer. Now that the deal is off, and a lot of people are losing their heads, I'm a bit more inclined to post and explain why I think we might be better off. On the contrary, there's a lot of people who thought this transfer would've been the best thing since sliced bread but who no longer have much to contribute. Some folks have stayed in the conversation to add level-headed contributions, and some have popped on to lose their shit. But it's just the way of it -- there's more for the positive camp to say when it looks on, there's more for the negative camp to say when it looks off.
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
Don't kid yourself Mate. Pogba's a bloody good player, who will improve that shower of sh*t no end.
Wouldn't be in the least bit amused if he went there.... at any price
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If he went there!!!!, he was fookin there!!, dressed in red shite on that wank swamp, left four years ago and hasn't adorned the red shit since, it's a blessing of the highest order that he hasn't developed there and has cost them circa 200 mill when all said and done, I for one am delighted at this monumental fuck up, the kings of youth are throwing half the Bank of England at one that got away, good player or not it's fookin hilarious.
 
Tron Coltrane said:
I know the above is a joke, but to run with it by taking it seriously...

I don't think there are actually that many people who touted the signed of Pogba when we were favorites to sign him, only to downplay his ability when it became likely he'd go elsewhere (specifically across town). I just think there are two sides in most transfers, and one side is more inclined to post when the transfer looks likely, and one side more likely to chip in its two cents when it looks like it's off.

I think Pogba's great. I also think the terms being bandied about are financially irresponsible, and would've had a negative overall effect on our club. I think I piped up once or twice on the thread when things looked favorable (in its previous War & Peace form), but by and large didn't want to rain on everyone's parade by playing the part of Debby Downer. Now that the deal is off, and a lot of people are losing their heads, I'm a bit more inclined to post and explain why I think we might be better off. On the contrary, there's a lot of people who thought this transfer would've been the best thing since sliced bread but who no longer have much to contribute. Some folks have stayed in the conversation to add level-headed contributions, and some have popped on to lose their shit. But it's just the way of it -- there's more for the positive camp to say when it looks on, there's more for the negative camp to say when it looks off.
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Yeah, that's a fair point mate. I agree that our reasons for not pursuing Pogba are probably more to do with finances rather than football ability.
 
Danamy said:
In theory it's more than that, you could say he's getting Kroos & Gundogan for the price of Pogba, both an upgrade on what we've already got.
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Even if you combine the wages and fees of Kroos and Gundogan, we would probably have enough left to sign the young Columbian, Moreno, too.
 
I've genuinely had one Rag say to me today......"we will end up paying about £60m for him,coz they always do them sell on clause things,and we will of had one in place".
 
Tron Coltrane said:
I know the above is a joke, but to run with it by taking it seriously...

I don't think there are actually that many people who touted the signed of Pogba when we were favorites to sign him, only to downplay his ability when it became likely he'd go elsewhere (specifically across town). I just think there are two sides in most transfers, and one side is more inclined to post when the transfer looks likely, and one side more likely to chip in its two cents when it looks like it's off.

I think Pogba's great. I also think the terms being bandied about are financially irresponsible, and would've had a negative overall effect on our club. I think I piped up once or twice on the thread when things looked favorable (in its previous War & Peace form), but by and large didn't want to rain on everyone's parade by playing the part of Debby Downer. Now that the deal is off, and a lot of people are losing their heads, I'm a bit more inclined to post and explain why I think we might be better off. On the contrary, there's a lot of people who thought this transfer would've been the best thing since sliced bread but who no longer have much to contribute. Some folks have stayed in the conversation to add level-headed contributions, and some have popped on to lose their shit. But it's just the way of it -- there's more for the positive camp to say when it looks on, there's more for the negative camp to say when it looks off.
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All football fans in a nutshell mate... fickle as f*ck!!
 
Ric said:
Yeah, that's a fair point mate. I agree that our reasons for not pursuing Pogba are probably more to do with finances rather than football ability.
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I'd love for someone savvier than I to do a cost estimate analysis on what acquiring Pogba would actually cost us (someone who's not the Daily Mail, etc.). Taking everything into account... transfer fee (£100m), signing on bonus + agents fees (£20m?), wages (£12.5m/year?), the affect on our own wage structure with all competitive players requesting some equivalent of parity in current & future negotiations (£20m/year?). In my head -- and I could be well off -- acquiring Pogba could end up costing a club £350m over 5 years, and leave it with a different wage precedent for years beyond that. I know people will always chime in with "it's not my money!" or "that's what Champions League winning clubs have to do!" sound bytes, but for my part it just never added up for this one particular player. To each his own, though.
 
johnmc said:
Would you say Messi has had a good World Cup to date?
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Messi does tend to dominate big games - he's a blockbuster who rarely fails to impress. I don't think Pogba is anywhere near that level yet.
 
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