John Stones

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kupest said:
I doubt he is going to be at training. Don't think any of the English players have come back for their clubs.
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You're probably right, but I'd heard that he was supposed to report for training today. If not today then it'll be next monday so we'll probably have him by then anyway :)
 
Lomas has a lob on said:
Think today is the day for England players to return isn't it?
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Might well be, although I haven't heard anything about Joe or Raheem coming back to training today. Still, possibly City gave them extended leave like they apparently did with De Bruyne (although that was supposedly so he could spend some holiday time with his baby son*).

*Don't quote me on this, I'm only repeating what the media has said so there's a chance it's BS.
 
if I'm being honest I see Stones a huger gamble and probably not we need right now. However having now heard that Keoman is insisting that he wants Bony in part ex then when do we sign ?
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Marvin said:
I was serious about Lukaku and Bony. Bony's move to City hasn't worked out. It's been a disaster but it would not be a surprise if he turned it around. After he signed for City he wen straight to the ACON,then he got injured, then he had malaria. And he hasn't handled being a sub for Aguero well. He's a quality player though short on confidence and an upgrade on Lukaku.

Lukaku gets a quota of goals against weaker opponents but put him up against a strong quick centre back and he struggles. He also struggles to retain possession in quality teams where ball retention is premium.
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You say this but Lukaku just keeps scoring more goals each and every season. He has his flaws, don't get me wrong, but stats don't lie. And the stats say Bony isn't comparable.
 
efcblue said:
The entire team had a poor second half of the season. Stones' potential is clear and he has his age going for him. The fact that he's Pep's ideal centre back only raises his valuation with regards to Everton dealing with City. The fact that Bony has had a torrid 18 months with City only decreases his valuation. Does Pep actually view Bony as part of his plans? I hear he's for sale, and a player's price is different when he's for sale (Bony) than when he isn't for sale and the club wants to keep him (Tomkins, McCormack, Berahino, Deeny, Benteke). Also, I'd argue that Stones not partaking in any of that awful performance is only a good thing!

I'm not saying Bony isn't worth more, or isn't better, than any of the players you listed, because he is. But the circumstances dictate the price and right now, the circumstances should really put him below £20m.
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Oh sorry,Stones is not for sale then ?
 
ColinLee said:
You're right, the stats don't lie:-

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/romelu-lukaku/leistungsdaten/spieler/96341
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wilfried-bony/leistungsdaten/spieler/81808

They also don't support your assertions.
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They are awful stats that show next to no necessary detail to compare the players for a start, also Bony came into the league at 24 years old, an age Lukaku hasn't even reached yet. The two are not comparable Lukaku is better than Bony. Have we been watching the same two players? The only aspects they are similar in is power and stature.
 
KingVinnie said:
They are awful stats that show next to no necessary detail to compare the players for a start, also Bony came into the league at 24 years old, an age Lukaku hasn't even reached yet. The two are not comparable Lukaku is better than Bony. Have we been watching the same two players? The only aspects they are similar in is power and stature.
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They show goals and assists plus games played and were answer to someone else who claims that their stats showed Lukaku being much better. I dare say you can put other stats that show it one way or the other.
 
BlueDeadHead said:
May be fair but it isn't realistic. 35 and Bony and we would be lucky.
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You are having a laugh, hat put Bony at 15 mill, he is 26/27 at his peak and has a great goal scoring record. Even for City his record isn't bad for the starts he had and in and out of the team. You are basically labelling him half as good as troy deaney. He didn't have the greatest season but he doesn't really suit the way we play. He was always a big threat against us and we should be looking for 30 mill minimum
 
onceabluealways said:
You are having a laugh, hat put Bony at 15 mill, he is 26/27 at his peak and has a great goal scoring record. Even for City his record isn't bad for the starts he had and in and out of the team. You are basically labelling him half as good as troy deaney. He didn't have the greatest season but he doesn't really suit the way we play. He was always a big threat against us and we should be looking for 30 mill minimum
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Yeah good luck getting £30 million for a player clubs know we are desperate to get rid of. If we get £20 million for Bony we will be lucky.
 
RandomJ said:
Yeah good luck getting £30 million for a player clubs know we are desperate to get rid of. If we get £20 million for Bony we will be lucky.
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2 sides to every coin. To our fans we may seem desperate to get rid of Bony, but there are other teams which probably think he just couldn't get any playing time ahead of Aguero.
 
Larry Stranger said:
2 sides to every coin. To our fans we may seem desperate to get rid of Bony, but there are other teams which probably think he just couldn't get any playing time ahead of Aguero.
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He also has a very good goal scoring rate in the premier league and is still young. Watford, fair play to them have turned down 30 million for Troy Deeney. With the windfall of cash premier league clubs are awash with now with the new TV deal Manchester City will not under value this player, I reckon.
 
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