Marc-Andre ter Stegen

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Plain Speaking said:
Because he was not confident the makeshift defence would be able to work it upfield?
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So, if he's not confident in his defence, he is to simply ignore the managers instructions?

Willy was in the same predicament and proceeded to at least follow Peps instructions. Yes, it went pear shaped on more than one occasion, but Pep was seen to applaud Willy for attempting it. Joe
 
I don't want ter stegen to sign.. If we were buying some £10m keeper then fine, he'd be backup to hart and maybe put a bit of pressure on him.. But for this kind of fee he's gonna surely be first choice. Hart is a legend, he's hardly ever let us down. I've always been proud to have him as city number 1. Even if stegen is 10% a better player than hart I still don't want him, I guess I'm just being sentimental but hey ho
 
Hart is a top keeper and does us proud i to am lost on this one. Cracking shot stopper been a leader in our dreadful defence, cant imagine where in the league we would be without him.
 
Theengelbert said:
I don't want ter stegen to sign.. If we were buying some £10m keeper then fine, he'd be backup to hart and maybe put a bit of pressure on him.. But for this kind of fee he's gonna surely be first choice. Hart is a legend, he's hardly ever let us down. I've always been proud to have him as city number 1. Even if stegen is 10% a better player than hart I still don't want him, I guess I'm just being sentimental but hey ho
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Me too. After Aguero, Hart is the most popular player with the fans and for good reason. I have no idea why some fans are trying to invent a flaw in his game as if City have never tried to build up play from the back under Mancini or Pellegrini. We have been renowned for our passing game but suddenly the football we are going to play is going to be unrecognisable? Guardiola would laugh at that.

He's still here. We had £150m to spend. If Guardiola wanted to change keeper he would have done.
 
mosssideblue said:
So, if he's not confident in his defence, he is to simply ignore the managers instructions?

Willy was in the same predicament and proceeded to at least follow Peps instructions. Yes, it went pear shaped on more than one occasion, but Pep was seen to applaud Willy for attempting it. Joe
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Perhaps Guardiola likes to encourage his players. A few fans should try that sometimes. They are our players. With the uncertainties in defence, I'm really glad we have Hart in net and I am sure he will get on well with Stones a player he already knows. That is an advantage in settling in a new player. Keeper and central defender already know each other's game.
 
Marvin said:
Me too. After Aguero, Hart is the most popular player with the fans and for good reason. I have no idea why some fans are trying to invent a flaw in his game as if City have never tried to build up play from the back under Mancini or Pellegrini. We have been renowned for our passing game but suddenly the football we are going to play is going to be unrecognisable? Guardiola would laugh at that.

He's still here. We had £150m to spend. If Guardiola wanted to change keeper he would have done.
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He's not fucking good enough for the system Pep wants to play, that's it, nothing else has any relevance in this conversation, not shot stopping, popularity with the fans, nothing.

He's been guilty ever since he came in to the side of not having the footballing ability needed and he's going to pay for it if he doesn't learn fast.

His injury v the rags last season was solely down to his inability to make a quick decision with the ball at his feet, he's also indecisive when it's in his hands.

Pep wants to play a certain style and way of football, those who can't step up can step out, simple as that.

Too much sentimentality here at times.
 
I like Hart and he has saved us many times but I think it's true that he panics. If we have a better fit for Pep ... who is the equivalent to Joe from a shot stopping perspective...then I'm all for the upgrade.

Caballero is not an upgrade though so the thoughts of him as the No1 frightens me. If Hart should be replaced so should Caballero. Imagine if a new keeper is injured or it's the cups, Caballero will give us all hearth failure.

So impossible as it seems - 2 GKs please?!?!?
 
This transfer will all kick off on the 19th IMO.

That's when Barcelona have their first league game and ether ter Stegen or Bravo is going to demand to leave when they don't start.
 
TonyM said:
So impossible as it seems - 2 GKs please?!?!?
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I've had similar thoughts. What if we sign one sweeper and trade Hart (Hart would likely demand a transfer if he's not our first choice keeper), while keeping Caballero; Caballero seems even less able to play sweeper than Hart.

What happens if the hypothetical sweeper we sign gets injured? Moreover, are we going to play the sweeper every single game? Most teams rotate keepers.

So yes... I think we're actually 2 keepers away from being able to play the way Pep wants us to play.
 
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Marvin said:
Perhaps Guardiola likes to encourage his players. A few fans should try that sometimes. They are our players. With the uncertainties in defence, I'm really glad we have Hart in net and I am sure he will get on well with Stones a player he already knows. That is an advantage in settling in a new player. Keeper and central defender already know each other's game.
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But they don't know each others game as we are having to learn to play it another way and Hart appears to be struggling
 
Theengelbert said:
I don't want ter stegen to sign.. If we were buying some £10m keeper then fine, he'd be backup to hart and maybe put a bit of pressure on him.. But for this kind of fee he's gonna surely be first choice. Hart is a legend, he's hardly ever let us down. I've always been proud to have him as city number 1. Even if stegen is 10% a better player than hart I still don't want him, I guess I'm just being sentimental but hey ho
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Yes you are, but that will not make us improve playing the way Pep now wants us to
 
dannyboiblue said:
Hart is a top keeper and does us proud i to am lost on this one. Cracking shot stopper been a leader in our dreadful defence, cant imagine where in the league we would be without him.
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No one would argue that if Joe implements Peps way of working he should be our number 1. The fact so many are coming out to say we should be keeping him because of what he has done for us in the past must be clearly concerned that Joe might not be able to do what is asked of him and he may be moved on.

Yes, if that occurs it will be a sad day, but I don't think anyone on this board was against Pep coming in and taking our football onto a different level, and as fans, we have to accept that certain fan favourites might be casualties.

Pep has not got to where he has by considering sentiment and we need to accept that (he wont have favourites). And, if Joe is replaced (and we don't know that), then I see it as us improving the squad.
 
Marvin said:
Me too. After Aguero, Hart is the most popular player with the fans and for good reason. I have no idea why some fans are trying to invent a flaw in his game as if City have never tried to build up play from the back under Mancini or Pellegrini. We have been renowned for our passing game but suddenly the football we are going to play is going to be unrecognisable? Guardiola would laugh at that.

He's still here. We had £150m to spend. If Guardiola wanted to change keeper he would have done.
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That's fine, but do you agree that if he does bring in another keeper it's because Joe cannot play the way he wants
 
inchy14 said:
He's not fucking good enough for the system Pep wants to play, that's it, nothing else has any relevance in this conversation, not shot stopping, popularity with the fans, nothing.

He's been guilty ever since he came in to the side of not having the footballing ability needed and he's going to pay for it if he doesn't learn fast.

His injury v the rags last season was solely down to his inability to make a quick decision with the ball at his feet, he's also indecisive when it's in his hands.

Pep wants to play a certain style and way of football, those who can't step up can step out, simple as that.

Too much sentimentality here at times.
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And that's the crux of it. Sentiment will not make us better
 
Jeez it's like Joe Hart fc in here. support the club not the player. If pep decides Joe isn't upto it that's it, end of. Yes there's loyalty to consider but not at the detriment to the team
 
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