Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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It's not about Willy being better then Hart it's about commitment. I don't know if it was Xavi or someone else, but they said it isn't about making mistakes or not getting things right, but its about working hard in regards to Pep. Costa at BM was really inconsistent with his crosses as well as when he was in front of goal, but yet he was one of the first players on Pep starting XI, because he showed commitment and willingness to keep going.

Why in the world do I have to wait for mods for my post to be posted.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Aye?? Groupies? My god, if you believe someone is on here for a popularity contest then you're sadly mistaken (Gordan aside)...

So I'm to change my opinion based on becoming a pariah?

It's an opinion, shared with two previous managers and the current incumbent, does it make us right? Not at all, but I'm entitled to my opinion, as are you... Diabolical would be me saying he's shite, he's not, clearly... However, he is flawed and it's beginning to be exposed by coaches!!
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Time for a new name? Pariah not messiah?
 
didactic said:
Karen has a thing for our Joe I think.



Defence won that when you look at his actual stats he was never the best in the league.
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He was one game off the golden glove last year, was it our defence that got him there? Was it our defence that had Messi calling him a phenomenon?
Joe may well have issues, clearly the manager agrees and is trying to get shut, or (and I'm clutching big time here) he's trying to knock him down a peg to build him back up in his style, but please don't be stubborn or bandwagon'in enough to ignore how great he's been for us.
 
I suppose when you look at it like this it doesn't seem so hard to take:

I feel a bit underwhelmed by Bravo coming in to replace Joe, but I trust that Pep knows what he's doing
 
karen7 said:
Pep on Joe Hart: "He's a big pro, both on and off the pitch."
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Not getting involved in the argument here but he would hardly say he is a trouble causing fucker if we do want rid.

Much like his comments post Sunderland that went way overboard on certain players and the performance in general, what gets said publicly and privately will be chalk and cheese karen.
 
some people on here happy he is off and acting as if its good riddance....he is a class act. The fact He doesn't play Pep's way + with horrid euros with it being so recent in people's minds that it is attributing to their opinion.

It's pretty certain he is leaving , but at least don't insult others intelligence that he is shit.
 
Neville Kneville said:
i don't know if Joe has somehow refused or or spat his dummy out not. It appeared that way, but I don't know. But if he has, Is sorting it out 'in the dressing room', the way you would imagine Clough or Shankley or Revie or Ferguson or Mourinho or even Mancini would react to open disobedience from a player ?

Because if you do, I recon you are completely wrong. His feet wouldn't touch the floor. So why would Pep accept it ? If there has been any kind of incident, then Joe is fortunate to get a sub's job.
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Mancini? Yeah sure :D
 
There are aspects to his game that are really good, namely his shot stopping when one on one and his reactions.

But there are aspects to his game that are really substandard, namely his decision making, distribution, propensity to punch when he should and could catch, his weakness down to his left hand side and his positioning behind a wall for a free kick.

Also he nearly 30 and should have been addressing those weaknesses. We may not find a replacement who is as good at stopping shots that aren't low down to their left but I'm sure we can find someone who is solid all round.
 
blueinsa said:
Not getting involved in the argument here but he would hardly say he is a trouble causing fucker if we do want rid.

Much like his comments post Sunderland that went way overboard on certain players and the performance in general, what gets said publicly and privately will be chalk and cheese karen.
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I appreciate that,i'm just not buying the smear rumours some attention seeking posters are hinting about,it's the secret dossier bollocks we had with bobby all over again,spit it out or shut up
 
If Pep has known he needed a new keeper for a while, one that was better with his feet, then why didn't we get Valdes in on a free? Rather than potentially spend lots of money at the end of the window? Valdes already familiar with the Pep-losophy and would've had a full pre-season.
 
karen7 said:
I appreciate that,i'm just not buying the smear rumours some attention seeking posters are hinting about,it's the secret dossier bollocks we had with bobby all over again,spit it out or shut up
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Im in the camp that says its football and Pep just doesn't rate or want him. Shit happens, everyone will get over it.

If he did kick off who cares? I dont i know that.
 
Rolee said:
Amazing isn't it? What's even more remarkable if is he's as bad as some make out or if he's as much of a **** as some make out that he's managed to last at City as long as he has.
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I don't know if he's a **** or not, don't know the lad so won't pretend otherwise but Manuel didn't seem to be the type to rock the boat to much when it came to senior players and there was plenty of talk that Mancini wanted rid. Who knows?
I do know it's only a handful of posters on here going overboard, the rest are trying to discuss the situation as rationally as possible considering the subject at hand. He's rightly getting a lot of support from sections of the fanbase but it's the blind loyalty that some are showing that's causing as much angst as anything else. (Not saying that's the case with you)
 
quiet_riot said:
If Pep has known he needed a new keeper for a while, one that was better with his feet, then why didn't we get Valdes in on a free? Rather than potentially spend lots of money at the end of the window? Valdes already familiar with the Pep-losophy and would've had a full pre-season.
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Like a stick sharpened at one end, you have a point my friend. Certainly s better alternative to Willy if he was thinking Hart needed time or outing. That said maybe Valdes said no, 1 or none.
 
quiet_riot said:
Post the pic then.

You can't, because there's no way the club would allow some random to take a picture of any damage to put on social media and allow the vultures to start circling. Even if it did happen.
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what is this about ?
 
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