Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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Joe's undoing is that he is slow in thought and is slow off the mark. Two big requirements in a sweeper keeper and both something you have or you don't. They cannot be learnt.
 
karen7 said:
I appreciate that,i'm just not buying the smear rumours some attention seeking posters are hinting about,it's the secret dossier bollocks we had with bobby all over again,spit it out or shut up
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Agree.
 
meeesh said:
Players come and go,we know that very well,Joe Corrigan was the first keeper I grew up with followed by a helping hand from Alex Williams,but now I will raise you,Perry Suckling,Andy Dibble,Eike Immel and not knowing how old you are,them guys were absolute dog shit compared to what Joe Hart has done and been for us,he will go down as a great in my eyes,and many others I'm sure
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You leave Dibble alone, great city legend, be it having the ball knocked out of his hand or his pissed up threesomes, the lad was a city star ;-).

Corrigan, Williams, Nixon, Cooper, TC, Weaver, Budgie(briefly) were all (if not great), well remembered and good servants of the club. I would expect hart to be also remembered for his contribution? but I would still put at least 5 of them above hart in the affection I will remember them.

I will be grateful for the good times joe has given us just like I do for Edin, but that's modern football, sentiment doesn't come into it (unless it's Zab obviously)
 
MillionMilesAway said:
If Hart leaves, the senior CL squad is going to be even thinner.

I assume keepers are told by Guardiola that the first rule is "don't concede", the second is "do it my way". Maybe he just doesn't think he's quite right for the season yet. There doesn't appear to have been anything concrete from anyone except media troublemaking.
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Rightly or wrongly, I think it would be "do it my way and your less likely to concede"
 
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Metalartin said:
I hope the rumors are false personally, if it is a matter of adapting his game the way some of you are making out it's "impossible" to learn "at Joe's age" get a grip he's an athlete he's been playing football for most of his life we aren't talking about dragging someone off the street, if he really wants to improve his game for footwork and sweeping he will(whether that will happen I don't know but I'm not buying "it can't be done" that's stupid history books will show you that players can adapt dramatically).

Also it's apparent people have short memories here if you're doubting Joe's shot stopping too much, there's saves Joe's pulled off that I've yet to see Bravo come close to.
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Sadly, I think the writing's on the wall. If Pep believed he could adapt his game he would have been maximising his chances to do that eg by giving him 90 mins against Arsenal. Given that Hart's confidence must have taken a dent after the Euros, a manager who believed in him would have done his utmost to restore his player's self belief, shown faith in him, not dropped him down to second in the pecking order during pre season. Players can improve dramatically, but for a goalkeeper they need to be playing every week to do so. Once they fall into the back up category its very hard for them to improve.

I don't think Pep expects our keeper to have that many games when he has to pull off a series of world class saves, as Hart has done in the past. Its more about saving the saves he should, being consistent.
 
quiet_riot said:
Post the pic then.

You can't, because there's no way the club would allow some random to take a picture of any damage to put on social media and allow the vultures to start circling. Even if it did happen.
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One I can't because it's since been taken off Facebook, second I don't know how to on here, but why would I lie, it was posted this morning and has since been taken down, I'm not the only one to have seen it.
 
Metalartin said:
I hope the rumors are false personally, if it is a matter of adapting his game the way some of you are making out it's "impossible" to learn "at Joe's age" get a grip he's an athlete he's been playing football for most of his life we aren't talking about dragging someone off the street, if he really wants to improve his game for footwork and sweeping he will(whether that will happen I don't know but I'm not buying "it can't be done" that's stupid history books will show you that players can adapt dramatically).

Also it's apparent people have short memories here if you're doubting Joe's shot stopping too much, there's saves Joe's pulled off that I've yet to see Bravo come close to.
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I think through coaching Joe has developed and become risk averse and that is a very difficult trait to overcome. Yes you might be able to teach him better football control, but at the first sign of danger, I would suspect he would revert to type because that's what he knows best.

His tactics more often than not clear the immediate danger, but Pep is not looking for that.
 
urban genie said:
You leave Dibble alone, great city legend, be it having the ball knocked out of his hand or his pissed up threesomes, the lad was a city star ;-).

Corrigan, Williams, Nixon, Cooper, TC, Weaver, Budgie(briefly) were all (if not great), well remembered and good servants of the club. I would expect hart to be also remembered for his contribution? but I would still put at least 5 of them above hart in the affection I will remember them.

I will be grateful for the good times joe has given us just like I do for Edin, but that's modern football, sentiment doesn't come into it (unless it's Zab obviously)
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TC stands out in front of everyone in that list , best keeper I've seen at City since I've followed them.

Hart these days doesn't instill confidence I'm afraid.
 
Its a brave decision to sell Hart. Like taking over at Juve and telling Buffon he won't be first choice and to start looking for a new club. Good to see Pep not afraid to back his judgement but sad for Harty too.
 
Looking back at some of the over the top stick(not the criticism that's fine) in this thread it's frankly disgraceful we have that many blues who think it's ok to treat one of our own(which he very much is) with such contempt... give us all a bad name why don't you? RAGS!
 
quiet_riot said:
Post the pic then.

You can't, because there's no way the club would allow some random to take a picture of any damage to put on social media and allow the vultures to start circling. Even if it did happen.
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I saw it earlier too. It's not that hard to come across on Facebook.
 
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