Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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I'm sorry if you found that condescending, Calum...

Anyway as I said the criticism if fine but showing contempt and personal insults nothing to do with the goings on or his game is uncalled for and I detect Rag wummery that ok with you?

oh, i never find anything that anyone posts on a football forum a problem in any way.
no worries on that score, the internet isn't real, you know.

i was genuinely curious as to who exactly you are throwing these rag comments at.
you are calling blues rags, but don't seem to want to back it up.
 
Joe's a City Legend. No debate there but he isn't capable of adapting or seemingly willing to learn how to play a decent measured pass out from the back and therefore with Pep there is only one possible outcome which is goodbye Joe.
 
Corrigan was very good. Just of an era when there were two better and very good keepers around (Clemence and Shilton). Coton was very dynamic and made goalkeeping look fun. It's hard to really know just how good he was because were pretty poor back then, but in the context of being great for us, at the precise time, absolutely. Hated seeing him at United, far more than Corrigan at Liverpool.
 
This is two seperate things,pep not wanting him which is fair enough and there is trashing him and putting out malicious rumours on twitter,it's the 2nd bit that is pissing me off,no need to do that to someone who has achieved so much and been part of our success for 10yrs


No one is going to be able to discount his achievements, nor will they. But folk remember things as they look to reason why he is going. Him forcing a start over Costel or threatening to hand in a transfer request, him helping get Mancini sacked, shouting at a ball boy etc. He isn't some golden boy that is untouchable with regards to his conduct, but he was allowed to think he was. If Pep wants to rid the place of people who think they are above the team, we should support that even if we don't know the reasons why he has cone to that conclusion. It clearly isn't just the footballing reasons going by his actions. If it was, he'd be happy to keep him asca back up.
 
I'm old enough to remember all of the above , Andy dibble was alright but you forgot Tony Coton who was better than all of them ....

I listed the 3 shit ones that came to my head,TC wasn't shit but he became a rag,so instant dislike,Weaver,James,Seaman all good uns as well,they were not on my shit list,that was my whole point of saying with Hart we have come a long way
 
oh, i never find anything that anyone posts on a football forum a problem in any way.
no worries on that score, the internet isn't real, you know.

i was genuinely curious as to who exactly you are throwing these rag comments at.
you are calling blues rags, but don't seem to want to back it up.
Back it up? lol Have you heard yourself? I didn't call anyone out by name which negates the need to, you obviously felt it was aimed at you but I'm not quite sure you were one of those posters to be honest so maybe wind your neck in? If it was just curiosity have a browse back I'm pretty sure you'll find a few like I alluded to.

To answer anyway naming and shaming will just give them the desired results they craved if they were wumming and drag the thread further off topic. :) I don't give a fuck who thinks they'e big time charlie here I speak my mind and I'm well within my rights to do so when I think somethings out of order.
 
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What was wrong about him shouting for a ball? Did he give too many fucks about winning?
 
No one is going to be able to discount his achievements, nor will they. But folk remember things as they look to reason why he is going. Him forcing a start over Costel or threatening to hand in a transfer request, him helping get Mancini sacked, shouting at a ball boy etc. He isn't some golden boy that is untouchable with regards to his conduct, but he was allowed to think he was. If Pep wants to rid the place of people who think they are above the team, we should support that even if we don't know the reasons why he has cone to that conclusion. It clearly isn't just the footballing reasons going by his actions. If it was, he'd be happy to keep him asca back up.

they are just rumors though, not factual. you say he thinks he's above the team ? but again whats that based. maybe it is just footballing reasons.

what exactly was wrong with him shouting at the ball boy ??
 
What was wrong about him shouting for a ball? Did he give too many fucks about winning?

nothing whatsoever, its just people trying to justify it and going to extremes to try and prove harts is some kind of terrible human being. its the same thing every time a new manager comes in.
 
Back it up? lol Have you heard yourself? I didn't call anyone out by name which negates the need to, you obviously felt it was aimed at you but I'm not quite sure you were one of those posters to be honest so maybe wind your neck in?

To answer anyway naming and shaming will just give them the desired results they craved if they were wumming and drag the thread further off topic. :) I don't give a fuck who thinks they are a big time charlie here I speak my mind and I'm well within my rights to do so when I think somethings out of order.

i didn't think it was aimed at me at all.
my neck is not in need of a wind in.
i'm dicking about on an internet forum.
peace and love, blue.
 
Some people on here are taking this way to personally.

Players come and go.

The best manager in the world thinks we can do better.
 
i didn't think it was aimed at me at all.
my neck is not in need of a wind in.
i'm dicking about on an internet forum.
peace and love, blue.
Fair enough hard to tell if someones trying to have a pop sometimes, anyway I'd rather just leave it as how I said than quote them, like I said if you're curious have a read back you'll probably see it the same way I just don't think Joe deserves that from fellow Blues. If he is going I hope we all give him a good send off none of that nonsense.

Peace.
 
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We will only know by the closing of the transfer window.

I can't see him staying somehow (hope Im wrong) but something has obviously gone on and unless they sit down and sort it out, it seems unrepairable and a move looks like the best option.

There's absolutely no way that Caballero would get a start over Joe Hart for just footballing reasons. Training, attitude, ego, whatever spring to mind.

I hope Joe stays and gets his head down and knuckles down but just get a feeling that that's it as far as his City career goes.
 
they are just rumors though, not factual. you say he thinks he's above the team ? but again whats that based. maybe it is just footballing reasons.

Mixed feelings over this. Joe has given us some great moments, but I always remember him being ready to leave when he was loaned out to Birmingham, shouting abuse at Mancini over Balotelli (something like 'that's your fucking boy' when Mario got sent off), every manager we've ever had seeming to have doubts about him despite his ability.

All of that I think we can move past and manage, but if Guardiola doesn't rate him on a footballing level, or thinks he's bad for the team for some other reason we should accept and support that IMO. I don't want to see Nasri leave either (I think/thought he would flourish again now), but if Pep wants it it's okay with me. We have to buy into his ideas 100% now. He's got to be the boss.
 
If the club don't manage to sign another 'keeper and we continue the season with Caballero and Hart, will everyone be happy for the second best 'keeper to continue to start?
 
Mixed feelings over this. Joe has given us some great moments, but I always remember him being ready to leave when he was loaned out to Birmingham, shouting abuse at Mancini over Balotelli (something like 'that's your fucking boy' when Mario got sent off), every manager we've ever had seeming to have doubts about him despite his ability.

All of that I think we can move past and manage, but if Guardiola doesn't rate him on a footballing level, or thinks he's bad for the team for some other reason we should accept and support that IMO. I don't want to see Nasri leave either (I think/thought he would flourish again now), but if Pep wants it it's okay with me. We have to buy into his ideas 100% now. He's got to be the boss.

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I the rumours are true and hart is 1 of many a bad apple in the dressing room then pep is right to straighten him out and if that means getting rid then so be it! Will always b a legend in my eyes but some times its better to move on early and not let things go stale!
 
Mixed feelings over this. Joe has given us some great moments, but I always remember him being ready to leave when he was loaned out to Birmingham, shouting abuse at Mancini over Balotelli (something like 'that's your fucking boy' when Mario got sent off), every manager we've ever had seeming to have doubts about him despite his ability.

All of that I think we can move past and manage, but if Guardiola doesn't rate him on a footballing level, or thinks he's bad for the team for some other reason we should accept and support that IMO. I don't want to see Nasri leave either (I think/thought he would flourish again now), but if Pep wants it it's okay with me. We have to buy into his ideas 100% now. He's got to be the boss.

when he was at Birmingham he's wasn't first choice though and leaving was a big option for him, seemed sensible for his career swell ( Was only a rumor anyway ). i dont think there was anything wrong with criticizing balotelli he nearly cost us the league at the moments, i also dont remember him shouting at mancini, just to himself, which most players and fans did. balotelli was an idiot at times.

i can't see how he's bad for the team, with him we've won two leagues, he was an integral part of both of those. i personally think we need players like hart, leaders and big personalities in the dressing room. i agree if its peps decision then ill have to just deal with it.
 
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