Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[SWP's back]

If the club don't manage to sign another 'keeper and we continue the season with Caballero and Hart, will everyone be happy for the second best 'keeper to continue to start?

Probably not but you never know. Willy can only improve with a run of games.

 

[mosssideblue]

If the club don't manage to sign another 'keeper and we continue the season with Caballero and Hart, will everyone be happy for the second best 'keeper to continue to start?

Bit of a loaded question. What I think your asking is would people be happy if Willy started. For me, whoever Pep icks is the better keeper.

 

[Phil1]

Fucking hell, it's like the Yaya thread. Far too much hate from some, and others need to realise that it's a new start for the club and some old players will have to move on - regardless of how long they've been here, and how much some fans love them. Fuck knows what will happen once Silva gets dropped for Gundogan - Ric will have to phone the Samaritans to get someone monitoring the thread!

If the manager doesn't fancy him, then he'll move on. I'll remember him as a club legend. From my point of view, he cared about the club and showed it. Don't know what the stuff is about a smashed telly, I'm just stunned that Yaya or Kolarov haven't been blamed! Mind you Kolarov is now rehabilitated!

Haha! Soon as I saw your name I knew you'd be bringing Silva into it.
Yaya getting dropped and Dave being captain must have had you scratching your head..
As one of Silvas biggest fans I'd have no problem with him playing less if a better player is brought in.

 

[mosssideblue]

And this is the question on my lips as well

Well, he has already picked the best keeper, hasn,t he?

 

[pudge]

Probably not but you never know. Willy can only improve with a run of games.

As could Hart.

 

[meeesh]

Well, he has already picked the best keeper, hasn,t he?

I'm watching Chelsea now, going round in circles here, I'll leave you to it

 

[pudge]

Well, he has already picked the best keeper, hasn,t he?

Pep is ruthless. If Aguero fucks him off then Iheanacho gets the game time. Would that make him the better player?

 

[blueplan]

Well, he has already picked the best keeper, hasn,t he?

Yes the better keeper that fits the team. And he isn't English. That speaks volumes.

 

[Phil1]

About time blueplan gave us his thoughts. If anybody knows the score its him.. :-)

 

[mosssideblue]

It's not superior though, at a questionable push it would be like being the least fattest kid at fat camp.

It appears it's more Caballero's willingness to distribute the ball differently more so than his ability to do so. On Saturday he did nothing impressive in that regard and in pre season he stunk it up kicking wise.

Hart is the better overall 'keeper between the two; no debate at all, sorry. If they are the two options going into the season after the window closes, would everyone be OK with the lesser of the two playing week in and week out?

Because when Bony played ahead of Iheanacho it wasn't pretty on here.

I think you know that if Pep wasnt the manager, most would opt for Joe. The requirements of that position have significantly changed (and you know that too), so not sure what your question is looking to achieve other than start another round of meaningless debate about who is the better keeper when were actualy comparing the person to the role and not the person against the other

 

[twoddlehopper]

Absolutely and Cogently Expressed.

• Without football nous and the technical footwork abilities which has to be mastered by any GK at this stage can City afford continuing carrying an overrated, over-hyped GK who was fully exposed at the recent Euros?
• Do we have the luxury of letting Hart acquire learning on the spot when he has shown and has a proclivity to be Risk Aversed.
• Has he shown leadership on the field when he let his teammate/s carry the burden of defending his GK turf (especially crosses and from corner kicks ) and letting them being scapegoated for any goals let in?

Can we let Pep and the Club be the Laughing Stock of the World?

What is the point of trying to be articulate and 'matter of fact' with a post then filling it with bias and opioions trying to pass them off as facts? Are you in fact 12 and just discovered your thesaurus app?

 

[Len Rum]

joe is miles better than willy as a traditional goalkeeper. are you blind :)

My vision is OK thank you.
Willy is a solid all round keeper. No major weaknesses in his game.
As has been documented by a number of posters on this thread, Joe's game has many aspects where to use management speak there is room for improvement.
So to tell you the truth if they remain as our choice of keepers, I'm not really that arsed whether it's Willy or Joe's name on the team sheet.

 

[kaz7]

My vision is OK thank you.
Willy is a solid all round keeper. No major weaknesses in his game.
As has been documented by a number of posters on this thread, Joe's game has many aspects where to use management speak there is room for improvement.
So to tell you the truth if they remain as our choice of keepers, I'm not really that arsed whether it's Willy or Joe's name on the team sheet.

Haha the cup final has wiped the memory of willy and his fuck up's last season,it'll soon come back to you

 

[mosssideblue]

My vision is OK thank you.
Willy is a solid all round keeper. No major weaknesses in his game.
As has been documented by a number of posters on this thread, Joe's game has many aspects where to use management speak there is room for improvement.
So to tell you the truth if they remain as our choice of keepers, I'm not really that arsed whether it's Willy or Joe's name on the team sheet.

I agree with this. Would also add that if willy were playing as often has Joe has, he would be getting a lot more credit than he does.

 

[SWP's back]

It's not superior though, at a questionable push it would be like being the least fattest kid at fat camp.

It appears it's more Caballero's willingness to distribute the ball differently more so than his ability to do so. On Saturday he did nothing impressive in that regard and in pre season he stunk it up kicking wise.

Hart is the better overall 'keeper between the two; no debate at all, sorry. If they are the two options going into the season after the window closes, would everyone be OK with the lesser of the two playing week in and week out?

Because when Bony played ahead of Iheanacho it wasn't pretty on here.

I still think the question will be rendered moot by 1st September. But probably not until then.

 

[WhitefieldT94]

Mignolet's knocking about spinningfields this evening, hope he's just here for the food to be honest

 

[johnmc]

Haha the cup final has wiped the memory of willy and his fuck up's last season,it'll soon come back to you

Hart has quite a catalogue of fuck ups himself.

 

[mosssideblue]

Pep is ruthless. If Aguero fucks him off then Iheanacho gets the game time. Would that make him the better player?

For the way Pep wants us to play, Willy is the better fit IMO

 

[SWP's back]

As could Hart.

If he does as he's told in training yes.

The difference is that Willy was a very decent keeper before but hasn't really showed it at City (due to confidence or I don't know what).

Joe has never been comfortable with ball at feet or being a sweeper keeper.

 

[Phil1]

My vision is OK thank you.

I've my doubts after your opinion of Silva on Saturday.. :-)