United 2016/17

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How many times did tyler cream his pants last night when pogba touched the ball wasn'timpressed y them at all last night and think we will bury them if they play like that against us
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
How many times did tyler cream his pants last night when pogba touched the ball wasn'timpressed y them at all last night and think we will bury them if they play like that against us
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i was thinking the same thing.only saw second half.dull as dishwater.billed as the friday night big match,the ground was quiet,very little skill or class on show,but tyler and the sidekick(was it phil neville?)falling over themselves to big up carlton palmer.at one point i,m sure i heard "oh that just shows you the brilliance of pogba"..i,m sorry, but i didnt see anything brilliant last night and if my team had just signed a player for 100million i,d be expecting more than him strolling around deep in central midfield playing 4 yard passes.its also pathetic how they were trotting out the fact he had no pre season,so its incredible he lasted a whole game.what exactly did 100M benefit utd last night? maybe we will see the benefits when the thursday night league comes around,thats when utds youth willshow the world their class.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
or any variation on that
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dennishasdoneit said:
i was thinking the same thing.only saw second half.dull as dishwater.billed as the friday night big match,the ground was quiet,very little skill or class on show,but tyler and the sidekick(was it phil neville?)falling over themselves to big up carlton palmer.at one point i,m sure i heard "oh that just shows you the brilliance of pogba"..i,m sorry, but i didnt see anything brilliant last night and if my team had just signed a player for 100million i,d be expecting more than him strolling around deep in central midfield playing 4 yard passes.its also pathetic how they were trotting out the fact he had no pre season,so its incredible he lasted a whole game.what exactly did 100M benefit utd last night? maybe we will see the benefits when the thursday night league comes around,thats when utds youth willshow the world their class.
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Carlton Palmer. Lol.
 
I missed the extra prelim round the other week, but here is a quick flick through the local sides in this weekends games, on the whole good results - especially for Maine Road FC

Alsager 1 Winsford 3 (where has Oakie been lately??)
Atherton Colleries 1 Witton Albion 3
Droylsden 4 Radcliffe 4
Colne 2 1874 Northwich Vics 2
Hyde United 4 Cammell Laird 0
Maine Road 3 Emley 2
Mossley 4 Hemsworth Miners 0
Northwich Vics 2 Cheadle Town 4
Prescot 0 Trafford 1
West Didsbury & Chorlton 2 Squires Gate 3
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
been thinking about this for a while, but in light of this summer I feel it sums up where United are at the moment.

I believe there are pretty much three stages of being elite/winning. Hunger, Winning and Talking. I'm going to focus on the latter two in the case of United. Winning & Talking. Or as Scousers would call it, "Our Year & 'Istree-laaaaa". United's hunger and thirst for success was driven in part by their late 60s joy, and their pure envy of Liverpool dominating during the following decades. United's winning came to the fore through Ferguson and the relentless flow of trophies followed. This then led to exponential commercial and brand growth, which put them on a dangerous precipice. The precipice that leads to talking.

There come a stage where all great winners transition from winning, to talking about what they won. You see it with Liverpool, a club that once won trophies in a prolific fashion, who now occasionally win cups but mostly talk about their success. You see it with Michael Johnson covering the Olympics, talking about his past successes and what it was like to be the best. The problem with the talking phase is that those achievements not only become more distant, but they also become overshadowed by the subsequent successes of others. Michael Johnson experienced that last week when Van Niekerk took his 400m record, Johnson became slightly less relevant almost instantly.

Aside from the fundamental difference between winning and talking about past success, the other critical contrast is in the need to justify oneself. A winner does not need to justify himself, a winner is justified and vindicated by his success. Someone who talks about their past success is justifying themselves through this very act, they are having to remind people of their worth and merit by basking on former glories.

Ferguson may have explained actions he took, but he didn't need to justify them. He didn't need to justify selling Stam, selling Beckham, selling Van Nistelrooy or missing out on signing Tevez to us, he was vindicated by his subsequent success, there was no justification needed.

Now, United are having to justify themselves by not only constantly referring back to Ferguson's tenure, but because they constantly make statements trying to ensure people remember how relevant they're supposed to be. Signing Pogba is the prime example, it has been used constantly as a marketing tool to try and convince people that United are still a top club, a relevant entity at the top of the game. It's a signing about hype, about talk, about social media interest. The winning matches part is secondary. The focus has been on United reminding people that they're still a top club.

Pep Guardiola meanwhile has been busy explaining why Hart is going to leave. He hasn't had to justify himself, he's Pep Guardiola, people make the justification for him. His success means people accept his decision. City have to some extent lent on the hype of Pep coming in, to cover up for two miserable seasons under Pellegrini where they failed to live up to expectation. The difference is that City have not yet entered the winning phase. Sure, we've won trophies, but we have not had a prolific, prolonged period of winning trophies. It is simply a refocusing of our hunger to do so.

United meanwhile have made statement after statement. Mata, Di Maria, Martial, Ibrahimovic, Mourinho and now Pogba. It's all a plea to be talked about because they are failing to win on the pitch. The years tick by, and it's still all talk. What many United fans fail to realise is that the winning is over. Sure, they will win trophies, but that glorious period where they were THE "Winners" is gone. That period of greatness is gone, and all that is left is the same desperate hype and noise that they mock Liverpool for.

The winning is over, the talking has begun. That's where United are now, and that's the most reassuring thing despite everything we've seen over the summer. We killed the winning United, all that's left is the desperate attempt to prop up the growth it inspired and the hopes to win something in any given season. The growth the success inspired, as demonstrated by Liverpool, is fed much more quickly and easily by talking and hype, than it is through the proper grind, planning and organisation that creates winning.

Whilst the talk is insufferable, it will always be tempered by the fact that the best of United, at least for this era, has been and gone. It's why anything they do now, it's why Rashford's goal to win the derby can never hurt anything like any loss to them under Ferguson, because it's over for them. And we haven't even started yet.
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I'm very surprised that no one has commented on your post as it is not only insightful but goes to the very centre of the Rag psyche. "Sometimes our thoughts are backed by so much insecurity, that they create the lies we believe." Or as my dad used to say: "Empty vessels make more noise."
 
laserblue said:
Laughable comments like "scrappy win", "much closer game than the 4-1 suggested" and the knob who said that City were only top on alphabetical order. There's thick, pig shit thick and rag thick.
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Give it til the tenth, maybe we'll hear Mourinho pouting about a "fake result" again
 
blue dallas said:
Sky's directive ..

On Pogba .. " if you've got the money , spend it"

On Stones ... "He's cost more than Mark Hughes has spent in 3 years "
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I think the suits at Sky have looked at what the rags being in decline has cost them in the last couple of years and decided that they cannot afford for anything other than the rags winning the league this year. They fear that we are not quite on the same page.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
I missed the extra prelim round the other week, but here is a quick flick through the local sides in this weekends games, on the whole good results - especially for Maine Road FC

Alsager 1 Winsford 3 (where has Oakie been lately??)
Atherton Colleries 1 Witton Albion 3
Droylsden 4 Radcliffe 4
Colne 2 1874 Northwich Vics 2
Hyde United 4 Cammell Laird 0
Maine Road 3 Emley 2
Mossley 4 Hemsworth Miners 0
Northwich Vics 2 Cheadle Town 4
Prescot 0 Trafford 1
West Didsbury & Chorlton 2 Squires Gate 3
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Northwich Vics had a tough day!.... drawing at Colne before travelling home to get beat by Cheadle !
 
argyle said:
Sickening isn't it. Absolutely no mainstream outlet is daring to question the dive.
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ive been ranting about this since the moment it happened, yet not one thing has been said about it, not fucking one, apart from a quick mention on motd where one of the pundits ( murphy I think) said " looks like he tripped over his own leg" but was the quickly moved on to another subject.. ssn has not even mentioned it.. fucking twats absolute twats
 
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