Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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Its a sad day when a true blue leaves the club. Good luck Joe, you've been fantastic for us and we'll never forget you.
 
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But he's not wrong, that is why Hart has gone. It's the only evidence you need.
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It's not quite that simple is it? Avoiding the fact that Pep could be wrong which we won't know till next summer. Bravo could be a disaster. He will hopefully be brilliant.
Pep has shifted Hart out and kept Willy, he's shiffing Nasri out yet keeping Delph and Navas.

Do you think Pep thinks Navas is a better player, more useful, more flexible than Nasri in our current system? I know you don't. Navas is being kept over Nasri and it's nothing to do with football.
Why would Hart be any different?

Pep is getting his men in. Men he trusts, men he wants to work with not necessarily better players.

Good luck to Hart. Hope he earns his move to another top club or a second chance here.
 
TheThirdDeano said:
Anyone who picks de gay boy as a top 10 keeper is always completely unable to back it up with stats/evidence, it's just something that people keep repeating because the media say its true. I have yet to see anything that isn't a youtube highlight reel or some fucking idiot member of the british press saying De gea is good or just basing it on "Widly accepted knowledge". And yet anyone who argues for Joe can provide stats and figures to back it up.

De Gea is not, never has been and probably will never be in the top 10 keepers in the world.
And I'm sick of the sheep in here dragging him into any goalkeeper argument because they've been told repeatedly he is.

As for joe; I wish him all the best in Italy, he served us well and deserves success, Thank you Joe
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On the fucking money.
 
I will really miss Joe Hart. He's been a vital component of the success of our club. He also distinguishes himself both on & off the field. Great attitude, great work ethic, great motivator, great sense of humour, great goalkeeper. It would be fantastic if he learns how to play in the way Pep wants - becomes an A keeper - & returns to the club he must consider to be home. Best of luck Joe.
 
Bill said:
On the fucking money.
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Seconded.

Hart had a poor Euro's De Gea was arguably worse. He cost Spain top of the group and then made yet more mistakes in the following game.
Not basic avoidable errors/unexplainable fuck ups like Joe's.
But just poor keeping and positioning.
Not mentioned anywhere.
 
schfc6 said:
It's not quite that simple is it? Avoiding the fact that Pep could be wrong which we won't know till next summer. Bravo could be a disaster. He will hopefully be brilliant.
Pep has shifted Hart out and kept Willy, he's shiffing Nasri out yet keeping Delph and Navas.

Do you think Pep thinks Navas is a better player, more useful, more flexible than Nasri in our current system? I know you don't. Navas is being kept over Nasri and it's nothing to do with football.
Why would Hart be any different?

Pep is getting his men in. Men he trusts, men he wants to work with not necessarily better players.

Good luck to Hart. Hope he earns his move to another top club or a second chance here.
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I think it is a mixture of the two, Joe can do a bit of what Pep wants but seemingly not enough. In the heat of the moment Pep wants to see a pass laid out, not smashed back to opposite row z. That is where i think Joe will fail Peps demands on analysis. The rest is totally about Pep making sure he is the only power in the dressing room.
 
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Maldeika said:
Too many EPL goalkeepers in it - do you really think that besides the goalkeepers of Real, Barcelona, Bayern, Juve and PSG the rest of the top goalkeepers all play in the EPL?

I know - that has just to do with the perspective - normally the people mainly watch their league and matches of the top teams - and just cannot know and judge all goalkeepers in Europe. From a Bundesliga perspective I would for sure add Leno, Fährmann and maybe Gladbach's Swiss goalkeeper Sommer.
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You're just confirming my point to be honest. I managed to name ten most impartial fans would put above Hart without naming half the German, Spanish and Italian leagues.

Either way, Joe wasn't and isn't a top six keeper which was my point.
 
meeesh said:
Your comments on this thread have been nothing short of fucking horrible,you are so blinkered it is unreal,you try to back all your arguments with "stats",but not one bit of sentiment in any of your chat about Joe,which I find on your behalf truly embarrasing to be honest,and I've just said this to you what countless others have thought.

You then have the audacity to wish him well....................you really could not make it up.

So now it's done and official you can rest easy,the shit keeper has now left the club
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Horrible and you're embarrassed? Oh do grow a pair you gaping fanny. I do wish him well but I have no sentimentality towards him for various reasons.

I will rest very easy, what a window we have had.
 
TCIB said:
I think it is a mixture of the two, Joe can do a bit of what Pep wants but if seemingly not enough. In the heat of the moment Pep wants to see a pass laid out, not smashed back to opposite row z. That is where i think Joe will fail Peps demands on analysis. The rest is totally about Pep making sure he is the only power in the dressing room.
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Fully agree. That's why it's wrong to say he's shit because Pep doesn't want him.
There are very credible rumours that Pep earmarked certain players to cull before walking through the door. For me, that's perfectly acceptable but I doubt it was based on ability.

I also agree regards Joe. I don't think he could ever be the keeper Pep wants. Anyone Saying Bravo is a better keeper is stretching it. At 29 he was a rank average keeper playing at the bottom end of the table. Wasn't considered anywhere near the elite. Whilst Caballero was considered one of the best. Hart was fantastic.

Bravo is obviously better suited to retension and building of possession. Fingers crossed he's as good as we hope.

Best of luck to Joe and Bravo.
 
TheThirdDeano said:
Anyone who picks de gay boy as a top 10 keeper is always completely unable to back it up with stats/evidence, it's just something that people keep repeating because the media say its true. I have yet to see anything that isn't a youtube highlight reel or some fucking idiot member of the british press saying De gea is good or just basing it on "Widly accepted knowledge". And yet anyone who argues for Joe can provide stats and figures to back it up.

De Gea is not, never has been and probably will never be in the top 10 keepers in the world.
And I'm sick of the sheep in here dragging him into any goalkeeper argument because they've been told repeatedly he is.

As for joe; I wish him all the best in Italy, he served us well and deserves success, Thank you Joe
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And I've yet to find a fan that doesn't support City that rates Hart above DDG. All I was doing was listing keepers I'd rate above Joe, not the best ten in the world per se.

Also, first class homophobia there. Well done you.
 
Always thought if he left it would be for a team that's not Torino like another good team at least. Seems that we thought he is better then others did.
 
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