Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout

2sheikhs said:
There's only one person I can think of that could be a credible, electable leader but he doesn't want the job.
Everyone wants a better health service and better schools. Everyone wants world peace (well, most people).
They're not policies, they're desires.
If anyone thinks that the election of corbyn isn't the end of the party as a credible opposition, they're deluded.
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Everyone does not want an better NHS, especially those with a vested interest in private health care. Richard Branson springs to mind.
 
urmston said:
Corbyn's election as leader is like a nervous breakdown for Labour.

Instead of rationally coping with the election defeat last year the party has panicked and its members are now acting like a bunch of students playing at politics rather than people who want to organise properly and professionally in order to get power.

They've thrown in the towel and are using the party as a hobby.
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I can't wait to see you 'rationally' coping with defeat. As for 'acting like a bunch of students playing at politics', what do you think our current politicians are doing ?
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
Do you understand the meaning of perpetual and how foreign policy and lobbying from arms manufacturers affects this
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Do you understand the real world. In the rest of the world people don't even know who Jeremy is. I actually think Corbyn did well in this election. I actually like him but you are deluded if you are telling me Jeremy can end the worlds conflicts. I asked you his policies and you said this is what he would do as a policy ( not an aim) Madness.

Why not choose an easy one like give an extra 10 billion to the health service by increasing basic rate income tax or something like that. Instead you choose high level goals which one man cannot change. It's all A level polytechnic politics.
 
We'll have to just see what happens at the next election I think.
No point arguing about how well he'll do, we'll find out soon enough.
I want a strong labour party with a credible leader.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Do you understand the real world. In the rest of the world people don't even know who Jeremy is. I actually think Corbyn did well in this election. I actually like him but you are deluded if you are telling me Jeremy can end the worlds conflicts. I asked you his policies and you said this is what he would do as a policy ( not an aim) Madness.

Why not choose an easy one like give an extra 10 billion to the health service by increasing basic rate income tax or something like that. Instead you choose high level goals which one man cannot change. It's all A level polytechnic politics.
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You are repeating bullshit I have heard over and over without any original thought of your own. It's quite amazing how many people form their opinion on what they are told in the media. Tell me why you support Tory policies then.
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
You are repeating bullshit I have heard over and over without any original thought of your own. It's quite amazing how many people form their opinion on what they are told in the media. Tell me why you support Tory policies then.
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I don't. I used to vote labour and was once a member but never voted in the last election and before that voted lib dem.

I want labour to keep the Tories in check.
 
Yes I feel totally let down by him. I went to the cup final in a box and that tosser Campbell was in it as well and for charity was going to give me his signed autobiography , I was a bit drunk and refused and gave him a piece of my mind. Blair I cannot stand anymore but he got labour in power again.

Working class people who work are aspiring and ambitious and labour never speaks up for them anymore. It should do it would be more popular and electable.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yes I feel totally let down by him. I went to the cup final in a box and that tosser Campbell was in it as well and for charity was going to give me his signed autobiography , I was a bit drunk and refused and gave him a piece of my mind. Blair I cannot stand anymore but he got labour in power again.

Working class people who work are aspiring and ambitious and labour never speaks up for them anymore. It should do it would be more popular and electable.
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Then I think we want the same things, I just have more faith that Corbyn is the man to deliver it.
 
2sheikhs said:
So if he doesn't become prime minister, it's all down to the media? Nothing to do with people disagreeing with his policies?
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I doubt you know very much about his policies, you're not alone. Corbyn has spent most of his time being elected, then being stabbed in the back by Blairites, then being elected again, so he's had no time whatsoever to put his policies to the people.
 
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