Spurs vs City post match

Mr HJ said:
Yet still we had two really good chances as well as two great saves from Lloris - not as bad as some seem to think it's only the usual offenders who cost us the game. Sane has to be played before Navas, Gundogan needs to start in all the bigger games as he helps Silva and Sergio, and finally Kolarov and Fernando need to be sent packing. Pep will see this and probably learnt more today than the other ten games put together.
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Kolorov has improved to be fair,yeah,dropped a bollock v Celtic and today,shit happens.
Navas and Fernando out for me.
 
stan bowles said:
Ok so against a decent team Zaba and Kolarov are clearly nowhere near good enough. Same goes for Fernando. They were far better than us in all departments. The Pep honeymoon is over and there is a huge amount of work to be done. Trying to be positive but a lot of the negatives visible last season are still present. I expect us to finish 4th again this season.
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Hahahaha
 
Don't know how many times it has to be said but we can't play against sides that get right in our face. Liverpool and Arsenal will be licking their lips and Spurs will enjoy coming to the Etihad. Pep needs to learn and adapt to this quick. Today was lost as soon as we went behind IMO as Spurs just kicked on and with them having the best defence in the league we never looking in danger of troubling them. That itself is troubling.
 
Heart.net said:
Zaba is past it, and i still can't believe Pep would block his move. Kolarov is just a mentally weak player built on a fragile skillset that has nearly always gone missing against teams that press. I'd rather throw Maffeo and Angelino in the deep end, because there's a chance they'll turn out good. Fernando should just be downgraded to water carrier, he offers absolutely nothing.
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Thsts a fair assessment....the youngsters have to back up Cliche and Sagna....the others thx but just not good enough !!!
 
To be fair to Spurs, I don't think any team for the rest of the season will put in a better all round performance than that, they were excellent. The big teams always have their best game of the season against us, its been like that for a few years. They know how to beat us. Its about time we came up with a proper plan for these games.
 
blueheart84 said:
Outplayed in every facet. 2-0 was flattering to be honest.

Kolarov, Zabaleta, Fernando not good enough.

Stones can hold his head high.

What is Sane doing in training to not be able to get a start in this team?

I fear the same thing will happen at Liverpool, we have zero composure against quality pressing teams.

Silva is too lightweight to start centrally the way Pep sets up his teams.

No De Bruyne no Party.
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the fact that sane has only been used as a token gesture even in games where we have been comfortable says to me that Pep thinks he is no where near ready to play a full game in the prem and from what I've seen I agree...looks way off being ready and he will need time to get his head down and develop as a player.......he aint nowhere near ready to play int his team yet..the work rate aint there and the physical ad mental determination isn't there either.....looks scared every time he comes on but he has a lot of time to develop and the qualities are there
 
A good dose of reality for Pep to ponder. Actually, I think a game like this will ultimately do us good. Pep will have learned more from this game than the previous eleven.

Thought Spuds were very good, got the tactics spot on and deserved the win.

Still confident we will win the league though.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
I didn't say they weren't the better team but it's hard to analyse objectively when one team can push, pull, feign injury, push Bravo in to the net to try to score a duplicitous goal. Not sure why Rose wasn't sent off after diving and kicking the ball away but maybe I'm missing something obvious?
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Holding the ball everytime we had a set piece. They were really dirty throughout.
 
Spurs were good, but what a brain fart by Pep. Wrong team selection. Subs far too late. I said how Spurs would play (who didn't think they would play like that?) yet Pep thought 4-1-4-1 with Fernando would do the business? (Seriously Pep, Fernando a player who can't pass forward to save his life as the 1!)
Shocking. Seriously poor from him.

Compounded by 4 shocking player performances.
Kolarov - Back to to normal.
Zaba - Over the hill. Just too slow now.
Otamendi - Went to ground far too often could have seen a red.
Bravo (Penalty save aside) - Far too often he made suicide passes to payers who would be closed down within 1/4 a second of receiving the ball

Teams are going to defend in our half every game now.
 
We were vulnerable going into this game with players missing and difficult preparation.
 
expect the same match against liverpool and arsenal unless something change. just before, the line up gave an indication about the outcome made that spuds team look like barcelona.
Guardiola need to wake up we didn't face top teams yet
 
A good lesson for pep and the boys, this is how the top teams will play against us, pool, arse etc. We'll learn from this and bounce back, to early in the season for it to be to damaging! Kolarov , zabs and navas should never start the big games. A bad day but we move on! CTID
 
BerkshireBlue said:
I was expecting to get beat so not too disappointed. We should expect to be beaten by Arsenal and Liverpool away and that's it. So we have to make sure we are at least 3 points ahead of the rest of the pack by the time we play them.

we need new full backs, Navas shouldn't start hard away games, Fernando is just awful. Really missed Nolitto today
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I'm fine with that. But, the problem is we don't look like winning against Liverpool or Tottenham even if we are playing at home. Our home form should be perfect, then we can afford to lose matches like today.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Best team won. We were dross until last 15 mins.

Zabaleta wank
Kolorov even worse
Navas wank
Fernando wank.

The rest average.

Not replacing the full backs once again is going to cost us. None of them are good enough for this level any more never mind europe.
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Not replacing full backs and not replacing Fernando (and Delph) will cost us. Still too many poor players in the squad so there is a big drop off in quality from the first 11.
 
Mr Partridge said:
To be fair to Spurs, I don't think any team for the rest of the season will put in a better all round performance than that, they were excellent. The big teams always have their best game of the season against us, its been like that for a few years. They know how to beat us. Its about time we came up with a proper plan for these games.
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Liverpool will push them close.
 
Arsenal and Liverpool can and probably will do the same to us maybe home and away as well. Today we were exactly like under Pellegrini, I am pretty sure we had very similar games under him last few season, where opponent with lesser quality was more hungry, pressing us, winning way more tackles, and scoring from their chances while we had no idea what to do really.

Strange Pep did not expect this kind of play from Spurs. If he did and still played Fernando, and the slower fullback combo than something is wrong.

Lets hope the Celtic draw and today is not a start of the rot that set in after last years fantastic 5 wins at the start. (Now after 6 wins.)

I hope Pep can sort this out while last season I was pessimistic with Pellegrini having ideas about dealing with it.

But we need to be able to get our players work their ass off off the ball just like Pochettino were able to dio it with his players today.

Pepe said he wont be unhappy after a bad game if players give their all in desire, well Spurs players had 200% more desire than us. Winning so much tackles, getting back to defend, press us high up even in second half instead of getting tired and ease off.

Problem is if other teams start to copy Celtic, Spurs succesfully against us.
 
Appaling 1st hlf, improved 2nd but it was almost impossible not to, zabba's time is up (legend), last few season's kolarov turned up again, fernando & navas nowhere near the level we need as has long been proved, doubt we'll be able to get the quality needed in in jan either? gonna be a tough season but we've the best man in charge so its onwards & upwards ctid
 
Have to hand it to spurs they were the better side today
They were quick and strong, well organized, and we had no answers
Spurs are a tough match up for us I think
their size and speed kept us on the wrong foot almost all day
Wanyama owned the midfield at the onset which set the tempo early.
Not worried though, the boys need to keep working and move ahead.
 
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