9/11 documentary now

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I'd always thought that the 9/11 conspiracies were the most far fetched of the lot .
Some questions do need answering though.
Why does the official report say that the steel structure melted due to the burning jet fuel?
Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1800 degrees. Steel can only melt in a blast furnace at 3000 degrees. The only thing that can generate that much heat is thermite (used in demolition). It can provide it's own oxygen supply and can carry on burning under water. The twin towers site carried on burning for 92 days after the attack despite being immersed in water. Thermite was found in abundance in the dust.
Even if you want to believe that burning jet fuel brought the towers down, how does that bring down tower 7?
Why were fighter jets ordered to stay grounded, completely against standard
protocol?
Why was there no evidence of a plane crash at the site of the supposed flight 93 crash?
 
2sheikhs said:
I'd always thought that the 9/11 conspiracies were the most far fetched of the lot .
Some questions do need answering though.
Why does the official report say that the steel structure melted due to the burning jet fuel?
Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1800 degrees. Steel can only melt in a blast furnace at 3000 degrees. The only thing that can generate that much heat is thermite (used in demolition). It can provide it's own oxygen supply and can carry on burning under water. The twin towers site carried on burning for 92 days after the attack despite being immersed in water. Thermite was found in abundance in the dust.
Even if you want to believe that burning jet fuel brought the towers down, how does that bring down tower 7?
Why were fighter jets ordered to stay grounded, completely against standard
protocol?
Why was there no evidence of a plane crash at the site of the supposed flight 93 crash?
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Bloody hell you have done it now!
 
What I don't get is the crash at the pentagon. You'd expect security cameras everywhere but all we got was the time lapse camera of a blur hitting the buildings. If anybody could tell me why no other footage has emerged of the pentagon crash then I'm all ears.
 
2sheikhs said:
I'd always thought that the 9/11 conspiracies were the most far fetched of the lot .
Some questions do need answering though.
Why does the official report say that the steel structure melted due to the burning jet fuel?
Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1800 degrees. Steel can only melt in a blast furnace at 3000 degrees. The only thing that can generate that much heat is thermite (used in demolition). It can provide it's own oxygen supply and can carry on burning under water. The twin towers site carried on burning for 92 days after the attack despite being immersed in water. Thermite was found in abundance in the dust.
Even if you want to believe that burning jet fuel brought the towers down, how does that bring down tower 7?
Why were fighter jets ordered to stay grounded, completely against standard
protocol?
Why was there no evidence of a plane crash at the site of the supposed flight 93 crash?
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Someone will be along to answer all your queries.
 
manimanc said:
What I don't get is the crash at the pentagon. You'd expect security cameras everywhere but all we got was the time lapse camera of a blur hitting the buildings. If anybody could tell me why no other footage has emerged of the pentagon crash then I'm all ears.
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All CCTV in the area allegedly was impounded by the CIA within minutes of the attack.

You'd think that some one at a business in the area might be sitting on a tape JFK style if true.
 
Im in New York next week, il get down there with a pen and paper and solve this mystery once and for all. Watch this space
 
What gets me is that if they came out tomorrow and admitted that this was all planned and executed by the Americans half the people would shrug their shoulders say i'm not surprised and then just carry on as normal.
 
abu13 said:
What gets me is that if they came out tomorrow and admitted that this was all planned and executed by the Americans half the people would shrug their shoulders say i'm not surprised and then just carry on as normal.
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If you was American. What would you actively do ?
 
dronefromsector7G said:
Someone will be along to answer all your queries.
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Well the the first bit pretty easy if you've ever worked with structural steel it don't melt at 3000c it begins to melt around 1500c and under load starts to buckle around 600c or less. and although the towers were designed to take aircraft impact I don't know but I doubt it was built to withstand a 120 ton aircraft at 500mph they did well to stand for as long as they did.
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2sheikhs said:
I'd always thought that the 9/11 conspiracies were the most far fetched of the lot .
Some questions do need answering though.
Why does the official report say that the steel structure melted due to the burning jet fuel?
Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1800 degrees. Steel can only melt in a blast furnace at 3000 degrees. The only thing that can generate that much heat is thermite (used in demolition). It can provide it's own oxygen supply and can carry on burning under water. The twin towers site carried on burning for 92 days after the attack despite being immersed in water. Thermite was found in abundance in the dust.
Even if you want to believe that burning jet fuel brought the towers down, how does that bring down tower 7?
Why were fighter jets ordered to stay grounded, completely against standard
protocol?
Why was there no evidence of a plane crash at the site of the supposed flight 93 crash?
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The official report doesn't say that steel melted. See question 7.
https://www.nist.gov/pba/national-i...ederal-building-and-fire-safety-investigation
Any molten metal seen was probably Aluminium which melts at 660 degrees.
There's a separate report about WTC7 that explains exactly what happened.
 
manimanc said:
What I don't get is the crash at the pentagon. You'd expect security cameras everywhere but all we got was the time lapse camera of a blur hitting the buildings. If anybody could tell me why no other footage has emerged of the pentagon crash then I'm all ears.
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For the same reason the footage of the aircraft hitting WTC1 is crap. Security cameras aren't designed to provide great images of objects travelling at 530mph. The only crash that had good footage was WTC2 and that's because proper cameras were focussed on it after WTC1 happened.
 
west didsblue said:
The official report doesn't say that steel melted. See question 7.
https://www.nist.gov/pba/national-i...ederal-building-and-fire-safety-investigation
Any molten metal seen was probably Aluminium which melts at 660 degrees.
There's a separate report about WTC7 that explains exactly what happened.
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I've just read through an old copy of the Engineer magazine where it gave an in depth explanation of why a building with so much redundant strength in it collapsed, basically it was a combination of the aircraft removing a fair amount of support columns which in itself the building could support as the load was passed to undamaged columns but the 90000 litres of burning jet fuel softened and distorted the structure beyond its load limits.
 
i kne albert davy said:
I've just read through an old copy of the Engineer magazine where it gave an in depth explanation of why a building with so much redundant strength in it collapsed, basically it was a combination of the aircraft removing a fair amount of support columns which in itself the building could support as the load was passed to undamaged columns but the 90000 litres of burning jet fuel softened and distorted the structure beyond its load limits.
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That's pretty much what the official report said.
 
Dont know whats more beliveable
For the country whose intelligence agencies propsed carrying out false flag attacks on its own soil and killing its own people previously to blame it on cubans for their war agenda only for it to be rejected by argubly the last decent president that US had who was eventually murdered ofcourse or some cave men headed by former cia agent sitting in one of the backwards country in the world carrying out such a sophisticated attack.

Following is the extract of from the propsed cia plan back in 1962
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Operation Northwoods

Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]

Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who was in charge as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of theUnited States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency(CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]

At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
 
manimanc said:
What I don't get is the crash at the pentagon. You'd expect security cameras everywhere but all we got was the time lapse camera of a blur hitting the buildings. If anybody could tell me why no other footage has emerged of the pentagon crash then I'm all ears.
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Because it's a secret building and they don't want you to see it
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
Dont know whats more beliveable
For the country whose intelligence agencies propsed carrying out false flag attacks on its own soil and killing its own people previously to blame it on cubans for their war agenda only for it to be rejected by argubly the last decent president that US had who was eventually murdered ofcourse or some cave men headed by former cia agent sitting in one of the backwards country in the world carrying out such a sophisticated attack.

Following is the extract of from the propsed cia plan back in 1962
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Operation Northwoods

Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]

Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who was in charge as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of theUnited States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency(CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]

At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
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Your government is not averse to conducting the occasional mass murder.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
Before you ask what's the relevance to 9/11. It's about as relevant as Operation Northwood.
 
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