City fined £35,000 for anti-doping admin error

depps said:
For fuck sake I'm not saying that somebody's job should be solely to work out champions league permutations but there should be somebody who is responsible for that along with things like player registration rules, keeping track of cards and suspensions etc. The manager shouldn't have to worry about this shit, it should all be handed to him on plate in advance of every match so that he only needs to worry about the football side of things
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Except Pellegrini already knew the rules as he'd been in a similar situation previously.
 
lancs blue said:
More likely it was a spot visit as detailed in the FA's anti-doping regs


On occasion, The FA may send officials to training venues in order to verify in any respect
the accuracy of the whereabouts information submitted by a Club or Player. Such
verification may be conducted separately to or in conjunction with drug testing
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It's been stated already it was an admin error, if a tester had turned up it would be a missed test, so looks like the official was just there to check the paperwork
 
The problem is, we're all just guessing, same as the media. I mean, as Fleetwood are facing the same charge at the same time and at the same point Glendon signs for them permanently, one could assume its all to do with that - but we don't know. People on here saying its 3 times in 12 months, but again we don't know for sure, maybe it was 3 times in one day, all related to one player?
Without details we are all speculating. And why on earth does this need to drag on for another week, why can't we just make our plea today and get on with it.
 
depps said:
For fuck sake I'm not saying that somebody's job should be solely to work out champions league permutations but there should be somebody who is responsible for that along with things like player registration rules, keeping track of cards and suspensions etc. The manager shouldn't have to worry about this shit, it should all be handed to him on plate in advance of every match so that he only needs to worry about the football side of things
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I'm sorry but no. It's the managers bloody job to know that.
 
bellsouth said:
The problem is, we're all just guessing, same as the media. I mean, as Fleetwood are facing the same charge at the same time and at the same point Glendon signs for them permanently, one could assume its all to do with that - but we don't know. People on here saying its 3 times in 12 months, but again we don't know for sure, maybe it was 3 times in one day, all related to one player?
Without details we are all speculating. And why on earth does this need to drag on for another week, why can't we just make our plea today and get on with it.
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Our Administration department are dealing with it......
Just speculating.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Except Pellegrini already knew the rules as he'd been in a similar situation previously.
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SWP's back said:
I'm sorry but no. It's the managers bloody job to know that.
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I'm not saying the manager here is blameless... I knew before that match what we needed for the various outcome so yes somebody who is being paid (handsomely) to work full time managing a football team should also know. My point though is that it shouldn't ever even be an issue, the club should have systems and people in place to ensure that these type of things don't happen. I'm sure we can afford a competent recent graduate on 25-30k a year to look after this kind of stuff.

Anyway, we are going off topic.
 
Whatever has caused the problem whether it is an admin error or the fault of players missing appointments or any other reason to fall foul of any football regulation it is a major surprise to me that our ADUG team who were responsible for the Business Plan that beat FFP do not have in place some sort of Internationally Approved and Registered Quality Plan that covers every facet of running any business.

If we do already have such a plan then it obviously does not function correctly on at least 3 occasions.
 
As predicted by most on here the press went overboard this morning. I bet the Rags, Dippers, Tarquins etc were lapping up the clicks by the bucketful.
 
blueparrot said:
If the testers can't find players and tests are missed it's everything to do with doping. Somebody at the club failed to do their job 3 times. Nobody else to blame.
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But that wasn't the case. I understand where you're coming from, but the headlines intimate us involved in doping.
Where in reality, it's an admin error. These sort of mistakes DO need ironing out though.
 
blue wang said:
The have a whole team of nobs to assist. Statisticians etc for this.
Let the specialist specialize and do what they are good at.
Coaching in this case, not football permutations.
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Yeah counting to Five and knowing it's a bigger number than four is pretty specialist.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah counting to Five and knowing it's a bigger number than four is pretty specialist.
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I can't believe people are expecting us to have someone at the club to assist the manager in knowing what we need to do to qualify from a group in the CL!

Pellers and the bloody players should all have known what result was needed, Christ if we need someone to tell them that then we are shoddily run, something i very much doubt.
 
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
But that wasn't the case. I understand where you're coming from, but the headlines intimate us involved in doping.
Where in reality, it's an admin error. These sort of mistakes DO need ironing out though.
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The point's been made that an "admin error" could be potentially used to cover up more serious issues. So if you knew that a player had a drug issue, either recreational or performance enhancing (and I'm certainly not suggesting that's the case here) you might want to throw drug testers off the scent for a while. We should not be complacent about this but we do need to hear the facts.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The point's been made that an "admin error" could be potentially used to cover up more serious issues. So if you knew that a player had a drug issue, either recreational or performance enhancing (and I'm certainly not suggesting that's the case here) you might want to throw drug testers off the scent for a while. We should not be complacent about this but we do need to hear the facts.
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And so far City have remained silent over the whole affair which is rather strange as they generally put out a worded statement ... unless they know they`ve fucked up.
 
They've been charged on failing to keep up to date info:

Regulation 14(d) says:
"It shall also be a breach of this Regulation 14 by the Club if the information contained in such reports is either initially inaccurate or has not been updated by the Club as necessary to ensure it remains accurate."

That it's apparently triggered by a 3rd case is pretty dumb by the club.

I don't think there's any chance that it's about missing tests, as the charge would relate to that, and not 14(d). In fact all of Reg 14 appears to relate to advising on whereabouts and not the testing per se.

The rest of Reg 14 says;
Club whereabouts information:
(a) All Clubs must furnish The FA upon request with any whereabouts information The FA requires from time to time in respect of any Players who are not IRTP Players or NRTP Players. That information shall include as a minimum: (i) training dates; (ii) start and finish times of training; (iii) the address at which such training will take place; and (iv) the home address for a Player and any other address at which a Player regularly resides overnight.
(b) The FA (whether through the Anti-Doping Unit or otherwise) may issue directions from time to time about: (i) the type of whereabouts information to be submitted by Clubs; and/or (ii) the manner and time frame in which such whereabouts information must be submitted.
(c) It shall be a breach of this Regulation 14 for a Club to fail to provide regular details of the times, dates and venues of the Club’s training sessions in the manner directed by The FA
 
inchy14 said:
I can't believe people are expecting us to have someone at the club to assist the manager in knowing what we need to do to qualify from a group in the CL!

Pellers and the bloody players should all have known what result was needed, Christ if we need someone to tell them that then we are shoddily run, something i very much doubt.
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Indeed. To be fair, very few in the away end near me knew either that night. When we went 3-2 up and I announced to everyone around me that 4-2 would have us finishing top of the group, it was met with a lot of puzzled looks!
 
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