The problem I see with the Barca model is they have been heavily dependent on Messi. That can't be recreated, unless we buy him and although still a brilliant player, he's dropped a level or 2 from his peak.
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Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)
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The problem I see with the Barca model is they have been heavily dependent on Messi. That can't be recreated, unless we buy him and although still a brilliant player, he's dropped a level or 2 from his peak.
The best thing we could do this weekend is a giant fuck you to the watching public by backing Pep and the team right from the off.
Agree 100%. It's time we stood up for our club on the biggest platform of all - in the actual stadium on match day.
People reeling out stat after stat to justify slagging off Bravo. The only stat you need is that he plays for Manchester City. Fucking get behind the whole team and manager. No one else will.
flb
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Agree 100%. It's time we stood up for our club on the biggest platform of all - in the actual stadium on match day.
People reeling out stat after stat to justify slagging off Bravo. The only stat you need is that he plays for Manchester City. Fucking get behind the whole team and manager. No one else will.
They need to throw us a few bones then.
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blueinsa
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They need to throw us a few bones then.
We get plenty.
Barca, Arse, rags to name but a few.
It's true now a lot of people are going out of habit but the atmosphere at the ground is one like they're doing us a favour letting us in, the heavy handed private army the club employ, the harassment by these semi literate clowns, the way long term fans are being moved frOm their seats to be replaced by people with more money than them. This all leaves a bitter taste, being searched like a criminal & the que's created by this makes me feel like they don't want me there & makes going to the match less & less enjoyable.I believe a lot of people feel similar & the atmosphere is subdued as a result.I think it's very close. Just as the pre-Brexit poll on here was also pretty accurate.
There's no anticipation of a game prior to kick-off, just thousands of people now coming out of habit rather than desire.
We don't want it enough anymore, we think we do, but not in terms of making a difference to the team.
The best thing we could do this weekend is a giant fuck you to the watching public by backing Pep and the team right from the off.
Fucking LA LA landA lot of fans say the media are against us, the refs have it in for us, the f a, and e u f a,
Now we have our own fans turning against us.
Other fans read blue moon and are rightly saying we are shit fans, the team and club need us to get behind them starting on Saturday.
Finger on the pulse , I agree with every word .An interesting piece and I will give my two penneth on it.
For the fan's who have done the hard yards, the old third division days and cock up and disappointment upon disappointment over those bleak years it probably goes a bit like this. We were taken over and suddenly became the richest club in the world. After years of winning nothing with the prospect of ever winning anything again almost zero, we now had a chance to compete on a level playing field. Our players and the standard of our football improved and we did actually win a few trophies, we were living the dream.....kind of. I will explain.
Everything appeared to be in place to dominate football in this country for the next ten to twenty years. Every pundit seemed to agree that we would and we couldn't wait. After years of watching the other lot pick up trophy after trophy and rubbing our noses in it we now had a taste of how it felt with the boot on the other foot and boy did it taste great! The problem is it hasn't happened. There are numerous reasons for this, a hostile media, FFP, every club getting millions just by being in the premier league, so being able to strengthen in a way they couldn't when the rags and dippers had it stitched up for years, with the champions league money ensuring they dominated the league. So in a bizarre way we felt cheated......cheated out of a golden period we anticipated we could enjoy and revel in.
Fast forward to today. For three years we have been preparing for arguably the greatest coach in world football. Surely this arrival, backed by the billions of the Sheik would now ensure the dream would come true........getting tonked 4-2 at Leicester and 4-0 at Everton, with a defence that appears non existent, a forward line that can't score and a keeper who seems invisible as every shot on target seems to end up in the back of our net has crushed all optimism, rightly or wrongly. All the demons of our shitty past are coming back to haunt us, ''Typical City, we will never be good enough, always be a laughing stock, also ran's!'' Thirty five years of mediocrity have left us mentally scarred whether we like to believe that or not and it doesn't take long for the self doubts to resurface. So for me it isn't 'Self entitlement' rather fear that no matter what we do we will contrive to cock it up just like the old days, that we are indeed cursed and ultimately doomed to fail. The majority of our fan's are still waiting for Jeremy Beadle to pop out and shout ''You've been framed!!!''
In a strange way it was easier being a City fan in the old days. We never expected to win anything so we went for the crack and were proud of our loyalty which was recognised throughout football. Our highlights were turning over the big boy's, especially the rags and a decent cup run. Our expectations were zero so anything resembling success was a bonus. I doubt any football fan totally enjoys following their club as the stress and fear of failure only dissipates when your team is 3-0 up with five minutes to go and coasting.
So we have all of the above added to the bullshit going on with showsec, the club not appearing to listen or discuss issues with fan's except for endless bloody survey's in the form of an e mail and we are where we are. We have always been a strange breed us Blues, we had to be or we wouldn't have stuck around so long. If we feel the club don't give a fuck about us, or even worse want us out to be replaced by a happy clapping spend more fan relishing the 'Matchday experience' it won't take much to tip us over the edge. So that part is a two way street too.
As for Pep I think he will get it right but I feel 'Backing his entire reputation and career' on doing the business for us is a bit OTT. Every manager does that in every job he takes on. He is being paid handsomely for doing so and backed by the richest owner in world football with some of the best facilities in the sport, he has to succeed surely?
When we sunk to the depth's of what was the old third division the club got down on bended knee pleading with us to to stick with them and we did, as we always would with or without the plea. It has been a while since as a fan base we think they feel the same about us anymore and this is creating division and unrest. It would just need some words from the chairman and/or manager to galvanise the whole club and fan base to unite again, as Blues we love nothing better than a ''It is us against the world'' cause, come on let's get back to where we were as a fan base and watch us take off!
flb
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We get plenty.
Barca, Arse, rags to name but a few.
Haha , not enough though is it really ?
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blueinsa
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Haha , not enough though is it really ?
It is for me and plenty of others.
The team needs supporting, end of regardless of winning every game or losing every game.
flb
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It is for me and plenty of others.
The team needs supporting, end of regardless of winning every game or losing every game.
I support them mate , vocally each home game - do you?aren't you exciled in Scotland- not being funny mate but if youre not at the match each week how would you know ?
It's the players who need to get the crowd going- they aren't a fucking under 8 side.
flb
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Not really. That's the point.
So it's the fans fault then ?
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I support them mate , vocally each home game - do you, aren't you exciled in Scotland- not being funny mate but if youre not at the match each week how would you know ?
Please do fuck off with this shit and feel free to report that response as well.
Christ fella, i make a comment saying the team deserves our support because as City fans thats what we have always done. support them yet you feel the need to wave the match going fan card?
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So it's the fans fault then ?
Why does it have to be someone's fault? Where have I said we need to blame the fans or blame the players? We're a club.
I'm saying wouldn't it be great if fans went to the match and supported the manager and players? Forgive me if that's naive.
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Your pong is strong.A lot of fans say the media are against us, the refs have it in for us, the f a, and e u f a,
Now we have our own fans turning against us.
Other fans read blue moon and are rightly saying we are shit fans, the team and club need us to get behind them starting on Saturday.
oakiecokie
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Oi behave.Not enough for my liking ;)
flb
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Please do fuck off with this shit and feel free to report that response as well.
Christ fella, i make a comment saying the team deserves our support because as City fans thats what we have always done. support them yet you feel to wave the match going fan card?
not waving anything, They do get our support but it's a two way thing , the support has virtually been the same for the 12 or so years we've been at the new ground , the atmosphere has been as equally shit apart from the season we won our first PL title and perhaps the season after and the second PL title.
It wasn't a dig and I apologise if you thought it was, I know you'd be at the ground if you could.
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fair point. however, personally looking at the teams vying for the top spots, i personally see arsenal (yes i know we beat them 2-1), liverpool and spurs staying more consistent over the course of the season. all 3 look superior and more settled.With 17 games to go, you think we can make up two points on Arsenal, but not three points on Liverpool and Spurs?
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Just waiting to push the air lingus back off stand and the pilot said to the headset man that pep has been sacked?
Checked everywhere and couldn't see anything? ??
Checked everywhere and couldn't see anything? ??
flb
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Why does it have to be someone's fault? Where have I said we need to blame the fans or blame the players? We're a club.
I'm saying wouldn't it be great if fans went to the match and supported the manager and players? Forgive me if that's naive.
It isn't naive , all I have said is the support has been the same for years , the Pep song is sung home and away , our songbook is very limited these days though , every fan is behind the club - if they weren't they wouldn't go would they , there are reasons for the subdued atmosphere that are well documented on here- it's modern day football I'm afraid.
It would be great I totally agree , passion and graft boosts crowds , young players boost crowds - so yes we need more bones throwing our way .