Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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It is obvious 'couldn't have done anything about' the second, as he is not a decent keeper and always seems to be off balance and dives too late if he bothers at all. The first may have seen another 'keeper come for the cross and react to the deflection like the attacker was able to. Cowardo aint going to risk hurting himself these days though.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Not seen it on TV yet thought he could have done better with second from where I was,I'll reserve judgement what I will say is he never seems to have a chance with anything between the posts every striker we face must be on a lucky day when they face us.
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He might not have saved it but full stretch he wasn't which imo he never is
 
Corky said:
It is obvious 'couldn't have done anything about' the second, as he is not a decent keeper and always seems to be off balance and dives too late if he bothers at all. The first may have seen another 'keeper come for the cross and react to the deflection like the attacker was able to. Cowardo aint going to risk hurting himself these days though.
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Top post mate!
 
schfc6 said:
Top post mate!
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I'm Sensing sarcasm.

Can't believe people are still saying "he couldn't have saved it but he should have made a better attempt of not savings it though..."

Fuck knows why like. Ridiculous stance to take.
 
SWP's back said:
I'm Sensing sarcasm.

Can't believe people are still saying "he couldn't have saved it but he should have made a better attempt of not savings it though..."

Fuck knows why like. Ridiculous stance to take.
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No, I thought it was a really constructive and insightful post.
A wonderful post worthy of interesting debate...

As I've said, some of the shit he gets is ridiculous. Totally irrelevant to what's going on.
 
SWP's back said:
I'm Sensing sarcasm.

Can't believe people are still saying "he couldn't have saved it but he should have made a better attempt of not savings it though..."

Fuck knows why like. Ridiculous stance to take.
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We expect the other players to bust a gut,why not bravo ? he should be straning to get them,the burnley keeper just came from across his goal fully stretched and diving and made the save,that effort is all i ask for
 
karen7 said:
We expect the other players to bust a gut,why not bravo ? he should be straning to get them,the burnley keeper just came from across his goal fully stretched and diving and made the save,that effort is all i ask for
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Whatever Karen. You know I like you but on this we will never agree. I criticise Bravo when it's deserved and I don't think he deserves any for yesterday. The whole team were excellent and robbed.
 
Bill said:
you can't really blame him for the two goals yesterday. they did after all fall between the posts so not much he could do.
our throwing away 2 points was completely down to pep. we were gifted 2 goals off a sorry spurs. with kolorov and clichy in the side to begin with that was a miracle as it was.
stones/vinny or both should have been on the moment the second goal went in.
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We absolutely dominated Spurs yesterday and the thing that cost us (yet again) was not turning chances into goals. Pep's team selection was justified by the performance and he can't be blamed for wasted opportunities.

It's easy and lazy to say what 'should have been' done in hindsight when bringing on an extra defender - one out of form, one returning from another injury - could easily have applied more pressure on ourselves and encouraged Spurs forward.

Maybe you would have been correct, maybe not but I'm sure if Pep did exactly what you've just said and we ended up with the same result, you'd be waiting in the wings to say "Pep shouldn't have made such a negative substitution".

Anyway, going off topic so I'll leave it there.
 
karen7 said:
He could have done better with the 2nd if he dives and didn't land on the same spot and actually reaches out fully,it's every game,i want him to launch himself at the ball,when has he made a save or got remotely close to one that is not straight at him? .Llores fucked up twice but made several saves to keep them in the game and get a point,bravo doesn't
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If Bravo had performed like LLores did yesterday, do you honestly think he would be being praised for saving us points?
 
Surprised he's being called out for anything yesterday. I'm far from enamoured with him but he couldn't do anything about the two goals yesterday.
 
mosssideblue said:
If Bravo had performed like LLores did yesterday, do you honestly think he would be being praised for saving us points?
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I used lloris to illistrate the saves he did make as keeping them in the game as that was who we played,i'd be mad if any of our keepers spilled the ball like he did
 
Dax777 said:
I agree here. Think he's confidence "looks" shot. And while he hasn't been at fault for much of anything the last few games, I'd probably consider benching him for a few games and giving him a reset opportunity.
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Yep, we did the same with Joe on at least two occasions and it did him good. The only thing I'd say is that Hart was a fair few years younger and fully established as our number one whereas Bravo has had a tough time since joining and a large portion of our fans are evidently relishing the chance to pounce on him at every single opportunity. That being said, I'd still like to see Caballero given a decent chance.
 
karen7 said:
I used lloris to illistrate the saves he did make as keeping them in the game as that was who we played,i'd be mad if any of our keepers spilled the ball like he did
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I wasn't really aiming it at you Karen, but I suspect many would not have focused on the great saves Lloris made, but simply picked up on his gaffs
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Whatever we think, once he is picked by Pep, we should all get behind him. Tbf, its very similar to how Willie was looked on originally until he had him Wembley moment. If Bravo is going through a crisis of self confidence the crowd on his back will make it much worse. I thought yesterday wouldn't it be nice to have a Bravo song and 50,000 belting it out to tell him we are supporting him. I'll bet he would have really appreciated that rather than the abuse he must hear. But then I am a bit of a happy clapper.
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Good post mate.
If you're at the match and he's in the team, support him.
We would have a far better atmersphere if we reserved the slagging off for the opposition.
 
Ric said:
It kicked off near me in the Family Stand (!) because someone berated Bravo in the first half when Otamendi headed the ball out for a throw. Someone rightly took exception, saying "how the fuck was that Bravo's fault?!" and it escalated from there with the stewards getting involved. He seems to polarise the fans more than any player, with the possible exception of Sterling.
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Fair comment and it's harsh on the lad that he should be a major talking point yesterday in particular. The problem is he's a cuckoo in the nest. Guardiola took a calculated (arguably cynical) decision to exile Hart. Had his man risen to the occasion, he would have got away with it. In the event, Bravo has been useless and hence the gamble has backfired.

Pep may well be the closest thing we have to a footballing god, but Mancs are a critical audience who look after "their own".

A string of good performances would still see Bravo out of the shit. Conversely, the longer the mediocrity continues, the longer this thread will grow.
 
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