mosssideblue
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He is absolutely correct. You trying to look smart with your emoti's has made you look the opposite.
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Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)
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Hungarian blue
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He is absolutely correct. You trying to look smart with your emoti's has made you look the opposite.
The emojis are the best part tbf
01cravend
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Barcelona's first choice keeper was a fraud now.
I can understand why some fans don't rate him to date.
What I fail to understand is the hatred. The desperation of some City fans to try and prove he's a 'fraud' and discredit all he's achieved.
Not even interested in giving him time and desperate to blame him when he's actually played well, much like Saturday.
Didn't Barcelona's first choice before him move to United, where he was 3rd choice? and is now at Middlesborough?
Playing for a top team doesn't automatically make you a top player.
Didn't Barcelona's first choice before him move to United, where he was 3rd choice? and is now at Middlesborough?
Playing for a top team doesn't automatically make you a top player.
No, he first moved to Monaco after rupturing his knee ligaments and was out for over a year.
Not quite the same. Ironically Barcelona let him leave on a free so they could sign this fraud...
Must be two of the best scouting networks in the sport full of idiots.
01cravend
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No, he first moved to Monaco after rupturing his knee ligaments and was out for over a year.
Not quite the same. Ironically Barcelona let him leave on a free so they could sign this fraud...
Must be two of the best scouting networks in the sport full of idiots.
He never actually moved to Monaco and he was out for 9 months(injured in March 2014, first game for United in Jan 2015).
This "fraud" that is so good that they signed him initially as back-up to Ter Stegen, but after the German picked up a back injury before the league started Bravo took his chance & showed good form, so they kept him playing in the league as he didn't deserve to be dropped. Had Ter-Stegen not got injured at that time, Bravo would have barely played at all.
They let Valdes go because they were signing Ter-Stegen(He joined over a month before Bravo and it was said that he'd be "Barcelona's keeper for the next decade" by the guy who signed them both). Bravo replaced Pinto
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Bill
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is it just me that doesn't give a fuck what he did at barca?
He never actually moved to Monaco and he was out for 9 months(injured in March 2014, first game for United in Jan 2015).
This "fraud" that is so good that they signed him initially as back-up to Ter Stegen, but after the German picked up a back injury before the league started Bravo took his chance & showed good form, so they kept him playing in the league as he didn't deserve to be dropped. Had Ter-Stegen not got injured at that time, Bravo would have barely played at all.
They let Valdes go because they were signing Ter-Stegen(He joined over a month before Bravo and it was said that he'd be "Barcelona's keeper for the next decade" by the guy who signed them both). Bravo replaced Pinto
Fact check in future
That's some unfortunate back injury that keeps you out for 2 full league seasons but allows you to play in cup games...
kaz7
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Me too,he can't save shots in a city shirt and that is all that matters to usis it just me that doesn't give a fuck what he did at barca?
is it just me that doesn't give a fuck what he did at barca?
His record at Barca is being brought up to refute claims that he's shit, perhaps if his detractors acknowledged that he actually is a good keeper that is struggling for form then there would be no need to bring his record at Barca into the conversation.
He never actually moved to Monaco and he was out for 9 months(injured in March 2014, first game for United in Jan 2015).
This "fraud" that is so good that they signed him initially as back-up to Ter Stegen, but after the German picked up a back injury before the league started Bravo took his chance & showed good form, so they kept him playing in the league as he didn't deserve to be dropped. Had Ter-Stegen not got injured at that time, Bravo would have barely played at all.
They let Valdes go because they were signing Ter-Stegen(He joined over a month before Bravo and it was said that he'd be "Barcelona's keeper for the next decade" by the guy who signed them both). Bravo replaced Pinto
Fact check in future
All of that is completely Incorrect. He was signed by Luis Enrique after he came in and saw ter Stegen wasn't good enough to be 1st choice at 22.
Fact check in future
Indeed. perhaps you should look beyond ter Stegen's wikipedia page.
kaz7
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So far he has been shit in a city shirt,that is all that is being said,does it not concern you that every shot is a goal?His record at Barca is being brought up to refute claims that he's shit, perhaps if his detractors acknowledged that he actually is a good keeper that is struggling for form then there would be no need to bring his record at Barca into the conversation.
Machiavelli
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How do you do the bit in the blue box bit that says 'fact check in future'?All of that is completely Incorrect. He was signed by Luis Enrique after he came in and saw ter Stegen wasn't good enough to be 1st choice at 22.
Indeed. perhaps you should look beyond ter Stegen's wikipedia page.
Sussed it matey.
How do you do the bit in the blue box bit that says 'fact check in future'?
Sussed it matey.
You put [ QUOTE] (but without the space) before it and [/QUOTE] after it.
So far he has been shit in a city shirt,that is all that is being said,does it not concern you that every shot is a goal?
Of course it does, I don't mean to be a dick but ffs that is a ridiculous question.
And btw it's not all that's being said and if you're honest you'll acknowledge that.
Machiavelli
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after it.[/QUOTE]You put [ QUOTE] (but without the space) before it and
Cheers dom
Totally agree with this. And I don't think it is out of arrogance. Bravo is probably still the best at practice.The message might be unchanged:
"Bravo is my no.1 keeper. I wanted to have him for the way I want to play football. I trust him.
Bravo can handle criticism as well as myself, we are professionals. He can handle immense pressure as shown vs spurs.
We have to defend as a team, the keeper is just the last link.
If we start to convert our chances the discussion about the keeper will stop immediately."
Pep won't panic about Bravo like many on here, as he seems to have a different view about Bravo's performances.
Pep wanted to have Bravo here, he MUST be convinced about his qualities. As Bravo's strengths and weaknesses won't have changed sinced last summer, it might be about confidence, lacking fan support or a new life in a new country.
Pep's only choice is backing Bravo. That's why I am convinced he won't drop him until summer.
Then Willy will be out of contract and a new keeper will come in. Pep won't hesitate to change the ranking then. But not now.
Dropping Bravo now would weaken Bravo and Pep. It would be a strategic mistake.
If Willy would be no.1 from now on, what does Pep do if we concede some? Change again?
A solution has to be found for our weak point: our left back side. Just remember the goals vs Everton and Spurs, Leicester too. Left back.
Of course it does, I don't mean to be a dick but ffs that is a ridiculous question.
And btw it's not all that's being said and if you're honest you'll acknowledge that.
Not only that, but the whole "I don't care what he's done before" argument is bullshit.
If we bought Messi in the summer and he got off to a bad start would people say the same? Or, would people rightly recognise his performances over the last decade and realise that Messi isn't shit, he's not a fraud, he might just need some time to adapt and settle in?
This claim always makes me laugh. How exactly do they do this? By shooting when they are supposed to shoot?The entire football industry know he's our main weakness. Opponents target him. Other fans laugh at him. Ex players including blues are questioning his inclusion. It's so glaringly obvious that your stance is frankly very odd.
Ps. I didn't say top rested entirely on one player.
And riddle me this, what do opponents do against keepers they are not targeting? Do they choose to 'not shoot' when they get a chance?
It's becoming silly up in here.
LolI suppose you also believe Pantilimon was our first choice keeper as he played in the cup final? Or Caballero last year and the charity shield?
Games for Barcelona in the 2 seasons ter Stegen and Bravo were there:
Bravo 75.
ter Stegen 46
Hmm that's funny, for some reason the reserve goalkeeper was playing twice as many games, isn't that odd?
Do you know who the 1 member of Barcelona's 15/16 squad who didn't win a treble was? ter Stegen, he didn't qualify for a league winners medal.
Isn't that odd, the first choice keeper being the only person who didn't get a winners medal?
It's almost like he wasn't the first choice keeper at all....
There are some claims you should feel free to be a dick about :-)Of course it does, I don't mean to be a dick but ffs that is a ridiculous question.
And btw it's not all that's being said and if you're honest you'll acknowledge that.
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