Russian invasion of Ukraine

argyle said:
I wouldn't bet on this.

There's no way he will sign off to release anything that would damage himself.

It will all be redacted, scrubbed or changed.

Just like in the way they released the 'full' Epstein prison video that was found to have many minutes missing.
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True, although Putin may think he is in too deep to wriggle out of it forever, and where is the value and threat value of the Pee tapes once the majority think Trump is a paedophile?
 
Blue Maverick said:
Can you imagine if Trump had balls Russia could be pushed back within months, open the floodgates to Ukraine and smash the twats, sadly the orange prick won’t and even if he dies Vance won’t be much better.
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Vance would be worse. Trump is just fucking stupid and deranged, Vance isn't stupid, he's calculated and very likely, dangerous. You wouldn't get the laughable comments from him or the clown show to mock, but you'd get the same outcomes for the most inportant things.
 
LGWIO said:
Comical that Trump gives Ukraine a deadline when he hasn't stuck to a single deadline that he has given Putin.
Putin really is making Trump look a complete fool, although I wondered if that is all part of the game. To show him up so much knowing full well that Trump will spit the dummy and come out playing the big man and claiming he wants to put America first in which case he cuts off all military aid to Ukraine.
A few Tomahawks/Taurus would work wonders now to really turn the screws on Russia.
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Do they have the delivery systems for tomohawks though?
 
Eebo said:
Just listened to what the BBC had to say and there was no mention of any details, no mention that this was a Russian proposal not a peace plan, no mention that Ukraine was being asked to give Russia territory that it doesn't control, no mention of the last time Ukraine signed an agreement with Russia backed by America and gave up its nukes. Disgraceful coverage.

All the BBC were interested in reporting was Trump and how spoke to Zelensky, as if Trump being a prick was 'news,. It really is just a story, no effort to explain or educate.

Not fit for purpose. Defund them now - get rid of the license fee.
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That was total bollocks when you posted it and still is now. You just hate the BBC are so are clouded on it

www.bbc.co.uk

Updated peace plan could be a deal Ukraine will take - eventually

The proposed plan is said to have been significantly changed since Sunday - but key sticking points are likely to remain.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
I think Trump did it to antagonise his gop colleagues.
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The Repupublican congressmen are very, verry worried about the mid terms. Polling numbers are looking good for the incompetent Dems.
Rising healthtcare and the cost of living (mainly driven by prices rising due to Trump's tarrifs BTW) are hitting Republican numbers hard.
If the Dems got there act together we're looking at landslide territory.
 
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addressing some of the myths in the media and social media at the moment



I've not watched it all but the 1st point is certainly valid
 
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