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I think it's largely irrelevant as I am having trouble remembering the old kippax, the new kippax and the names of bloody stands, platt lane became umbro...etc. I think the key to this is that we should just try to get the atmosphere around the ground if we can't have standing, like over here...

No, it was a communist thing..... they used to employ people just to watch foreigners come in and out, who they were with etc... a bit like the toilets and bathrooms being at the end of the corridor, although I imagine they were ensuite when you stayed... and as for the fashion, the customs...

I much preferred Blur! *gets coat*

nah, I'm on the weisbeer!!!!! I do remember us squeezing some seats below the scoreboard maybe not rainy or whatever corner but there were definitely a couple of rows of seats there. The away fans were definitely next to the Platt Lane stand, at the time the Platt Lane used to have park benches...

The last couple of pages may be blurb, but is a prime example of why Bluemoon works, Thank You to all, apologies for a guided tour around Kiev.....

yes have a good one, nearly 5 o'clock for you and knocking off time lol

sorry you are right, it's been so long, they were next to what would become the new scoreboard...... was it rainy corner when we were trying to bump up the capacity before the move to COMS

I'm trying to negotiate myself being put on the team for a project we may have in Dubai at the mo....lol, we'll see if that comes off

hmm, yes it was, to a certain extent, lol Do people still stand by the side of the road and strange people stop, negotiate a price and then drive you to where you want to go - seemed a really strange way of doing things and I seemed to remember the taxi drivers never had a problem with it...

which is why I suggested the foldaway seats like over here in Germany....... to make standing areas

Yes pretty much, living there for 6 months will do that, lol. I had a great time now but I much prefer it in Munich, much closer to home and I don't have to work out who the professionals are every time I have a drink in a bar frequented by foreigners or in a hotel - you know what I mean. The...

Actually you are wrong and I'm not blind or retarded, just old, the away fans were initially in "The Cage!" which was the end of the Kippax nearest the North Stand. This is what made the Kippax the heart of all songs, and all the singers, drunks and nutters used to stand next to the Cage

Is that the one just down the hill from the British Embassy? Didn't go in there much as my translator gave me the full tour of Kiev, she lived in Obolon and had a Dacha across the river near the Hydro park.... I do remember I wasn't allowed to drive over there, is car insurance mandatory yet...

Yes, loved it, are ukrainian girls still having the same fashion sense? Wear a short skirt and then put a split in it - some of my favourite times were on the metro - how steep are them escalators lol.... Yes it was good, stayed at the Hotel Ukraina in Independance Square at the top of...

Hey Vicky, where in Ukraine are you, I had the pleasure of doing a project in Kiev for Kyivstar about 6 years ago.... I spent August on holiday in Krim, Ferros to be exact...

Actually the best time to hold it would be when Evilton produce their new Russian - let's see which one Sky turn up at, lol

I don't often get to matches, certainly not as often as I would like, however football here in Germany has a slightly different view. I think if we are re-developing the ground then utilising the folding/lockable seats as used in the Allianz arena here in Munich is a good way forward. This...

I completely agree, my lad is 16 now and still lives in the UK and gets to more matches than I do, it makes the struggle of the previous 15 years of indoctrination so much better now. In fact, now he takes the mickey out of other kids at school who are still wearing their Sky4 jerseys. Edited...

I agree, I like to leave mine in a sack......

just watching the analysis from maged tv the stream. Carlton Palmer, how the fuck has he the brass neck to say Robinho had a poor game today???????