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    Sunderland post match thread

    I thought we played with a lot more verve / tempo, and we looked to pass forward more than usual. That slow turgid build up play was gone - which is a real plus. That said, when Pellegrini first came we started playing some fast and exciting stuff - so you have to be mindful of the 'new manager'...
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    Making a Murderer

    Dassey's conviction always looked shaky. 'Dragged into it' by Avery and then manipulated by the system looking for a conviction and wanting to nail him, and thus bolster the case against Avery too. I think Avery's got his work cut out though. We aren't privy to ALL the info, but it's not a...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    Brings a hole (sic) new meaning to goalkeeping cock-ups!
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    I don't know. My gut feeling is there's more to it than one single aspect of his keeping - one which (in theory) would be worked on under Pep. I'm not sure Pep would be pushing De Gea out. I think we're all speculating on the reasons, and perhaps people are right - 'he just doesn't fit into...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    I'd be less inclined to panic if I had Barca or Bayern's defence in front of me! I'd say if the keeper being able to play the ball out from the back is integral, then so is the defence he's playing it out too - which includes Clichy and Kolarov. I'd say every single position on the pitch is...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    'Sweeper keeper' is what the large majority of fans are now claiming that Hart can never be (or certainly not excel at). My point isn't that he can be, but that I believe there are more issues than that alone, and not being such a keeper isn't crippling to a team. His distribution is more...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    Of course he'd have seen what was going on, but at the same time, until you can coach him, you can't know for sure what improvements are possible and what aren't. The rumours about Pep not fancying Joe have been around for at least a year - the press were speculating on it during Pellegrini's...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    I'm a City fan, not a Hart fan. 'Sweeper keeper' is the new buzz phrase on this forum. I've said Hart has plenty of issues we've all seen - I just don't buy that it's all about this 'ball at his feet' issue. If he's going, it's for more than just that. Don't just other posters the way you judge...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    I'd rather there was no cause to let him go, but if it has to happen, so be it. I just don't believe if you're the supposed to be one of the best coaches in the world, you choose not to coach a player within a matter of weeks. It makes far more sense that there's other issues than 'ball at...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    How bloody often do we need a keeper to pass the ball compared with keep it out of the net? The word has gone mad when we're supposed to admire a keeper 'passing' it out. Valdes wasn't doing this for Barca - and they did rather well. It's a cherry on top of the cake, not a main ingredient. If...
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    Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

    I'm of this mind too - if you're a trainer, you give your training some time surely? If after a few months you're getting nowhere, then concern might be raised, but this is all little too sudden to be just about playing the ball out from the back. Maybe it's attitude or lifestyle or something -...
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    Aston Villa Thread 2016/17

    I think we progressed as a team and they got left behind. They were good enough once, they aren't any more. Some players excelled form the Hughes days - like Kompany and Zab, and others didn't. Lescott's a lot older too, and sometimes, a player drops off the cliff physically / mentally - not to...
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    Sunderland home (all in here)

    Colin Bell Block 123 - £20.00 Drop me a PM Update: Now Sold.
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    GMP pricing.

    130.00 per hour doesn't seem that much, and I expect there are charges for horses and equipment and possibly road closures etc.
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    GMP pricing.

    Maybe there's a different balance of Police vs ShowSec (or whoever it is)? It's one thing to say we're paying many times more for the policing, but what are the costs other clubs are paying for the likes of ShowSec or club staff, or similar? We can't just take the police bill in isolation, we...
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    Bony (Season long loan at Stoke - Official)

    There's enough of Bony that we can sell half of him twice and tell them he's been on Pep's diet.
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    Everton discussion 2016/17

    Top 4 is a hell of a tall order for Everton in their current state. Arsenal, City, United, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, West Ham, Stoke, Southampton - That's 9 teams who are pretty decent on a good day, and some of them very decent on most days. That's not to say Everton can't make top 4, but...
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    United 2016/17

    My God, bloody ITV news almost doing a full feature length episode on Pogba, AND playing a large section of the Adidas advert. All the footage courtesy of MUTV. Talk about good marketing - it's great when you can more or less dictate the terms of your coverage and ensure the footage is prepared...
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    West Ham 2016/17

    We were renting our stadium too, but we've made modifications. There's no telling what might be possible in years to come. In the next few years, there's an obligation to keep the track, but in 10 years time that could change, especially if the stadium operators believe it's in their interests...
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    John Stones

    Don't jinx us!

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