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Very good effort with the anagram. On the rivalry/relevance debate I don't think anybody is saying you are not relevant now. Just that up until 2010 or so you never posed a threat. Of course you were relevant to yourselves and your level rivals but you were simply historically not relevant as...

Fair play, u make some valid points including your criticism of the meltdowns though I would think that using 'empty seats' as a put down is a little risky territory for City supporters.

The clock banner was just a bit of friendly banter. Nobody took it seriously. Least not from our mindset. We didn't really view you as real rivals competitively I mean. The hatred and venom from Lfc was real though. Very real indeed.

Yes Frankie's certainly got a way with language. I can understand the underlying frustration though as no body likes to see themselves as basically irrelevant for such a long period. I thought you blues were proud of your stoicism under such bleak circumstances and your self deprecating gallows...

Agree with a lot of this. Football at this level can change rapidly. We have won two of the last five titles and though in transition are well positioned to challenge this season. Next phase of rebuild will be the summer transfer season. After Van Gaal leaves we will have to see how the...

Last 5 years 2010-11- Man Utd 2011-12 Manchester City 2012-13 Man Utd 2013-14 Manchester City 2014-15 Chelsea If we go back to last 10 years we are even further ahead.

I've always got on with City. There was no real antagonism between us though once you could challenge the rivalry naturally inyensified about 4 or 5 years back. We look on you as 'our kid'. Liverpool now that's a different matter.

Hardly. Just being polite by responding to my interlocutor. You have the money to challenge now so you must realise there will always be a bit of chat between us now.

Sorry my mistake. I hadn't realised you've got more titles than us, in the future.

Sorry but that is simply the historical reality. We've won more titles than Arsenal and Chelsea put together.

Let's see.

Remember the mid 70s only too well, watching Hughes, Dalglish and the unstoppable Stevie Heighway on the wing. 80s too didn't improve. Liverpool dominant domestically and cruising in Europe too. Then tragically Heysel and later Hillsborough taking us up to Ferguson's era. They were formidable no...

Two points in it at the moment. Could be tight this season. With Martial and Memphis we are building for the future.

United have represented Manchester as the major force in football since the 1960s just as Liverpool fc represented that city. That in itself is no slight on either Everton or City but just a matter of historical truth. The shipping resentment certainly was brought up again and again and added to...