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£50m bid
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.A. said:I agree, the fact Sterling didn't single handedly win a game against a team with a similar points total to us while playing right wingback and then leftback for a 10-man team is shocking.
£50m would be excessive but £30m-£35m is realistic and fair.
Can u please name me one good thing sterling has done these past two games including before bin dippers got a red card. He's average. Arsenal bought sanchez for 30-35 mil and we want to pay that money for sterling ffs
The media and us fans wonder why us, along with other premier league teams do shit in the champions league. This is why.
IWasHere said:Can u please name me one good thing sterling has done these past two games including before bin dippers got a red card. He's average. Arsenal bought sanchez for 30-35 mil and we want to pay that money for sterling ffs
Sterling is 20 years old and proven he's a quality talent. Clubs tend to have a more long-term view than "the last 2 games". 20 year olds will always be imperfect and have bad games. Is there any footballer in history who wouldn't have had bad patches barely out of their teens and playing at one of the toughest competitive levels? They'll consider the past 2 years and the future 10 years. Sterling would be a good investment for us, although £50m is excessive. £30m + add-ons or so would be sound business I think, but unlikely with the English premium and 2 years on his contract.
LoveCity said:IWasHere said:Can u please name me one good thing sterling has done these past two games including before bin dippers got a red card. He's average. Arsenal bought sanchez for 30-35 mil and we want to pay that money for sterling ffs
Sterling is 20 years old and proven he's a quality talent. Clubs tend to have a more long-term view than "the last 2 games". 20 year olds will always be imperfect and have bad games. Is there any footballer in history who wouldn't have had bad patches barely out of their teens and playing at one of the toughest competitive levels? They'll consider the past 2 years and the future 10 years. Sterling would be a good investment for us, although £50m is excessive. £30m + add-ons or so would be sound business I think, but unlikely with the English premium and 2 years on his contract.
It's too much imo for someone who's average, whether it's 30 or 50 mil. The amount of youngsters out there that are better than him is unreal. In England coutinho is better than him no doubt, Germany draxler is better than him, so is KDB and meyer has been looking promising recently, Italy have pogba, France veratti, Spain have isco all these players we can get for the same price for an average player on his good day.
Blue Haze
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Stick Sterling on the left and this guy in the right
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I was watching Liverpool with a scouser today and he said that he doesn't think Sterling will ever be world class. Obviously there's a long way to go and any 20 year old is gonna be inconsistent, but I think £50m is too steep for potential. Especially with the uncertainty over his contract. I'd be happy to see us wait for him to run his contract down a bit and go for him next summer instead. But players seem reluctant to do that nowadays. Having said that, he's come through his difficult second season and still looks dangerous (not so much today). One thing you have to bear in mind is the loss of Suarez. That means that defenders are now more free to focus on Sterling as the main threat. If he played for us, he'd be back to being one of a number of threats.
I agree on Coutinho though. He'd be a potential long term successor to Spanish Dave.
I agree on Coutinho though. He'd be a potential long term successor to Spanish Dave.
IWasHere said:LoveCity said:IWasHere said:Can u please name me one good thing sterling has done these past two games including before bin dippers got a red card. He's average. Arsenal bought sanchez for 30-35 mil and we want to pay that money for sterling ffs
Sterling is 20 years old and proven he's a quality talent. Clubs tend to have a more long-term view than "the last 2 games". 20 year olds will always be imperfect and have bad games. Is there any footballer in history who wouldn't have had bad patches barely out of their teens and playing at one of the toughest competitive levels? They'll consider the past 2 years and the future 10 years. Sterling would be a good investment for us, although £50m is excessive. £30m + add-ons or so would be sound business I think, but unlikely with the English premium and 2 years on his contract.
It's too much imo for someone who's average, whether it's 30 or 50 mil. The amount of youngsters out there that are better than him is unreal. In England coutinho is better than him no doubt, Germany draxler is better than him, so is KDB and meyer has been looking promising recently, Italy have pogba, France veratti, Spain have isco all these players we can get for the same price for an average player on his good day.
Half of these are different players though. It depends on the positions and skill-set the club are looking for and given the reports of our transfer budget, signing Sterling wouldn't necessarily mean we couldn't spend heavily on other players. My guess is we'd have Sterling cutting inside from the left, meaning he would be our Plan B after Reus decided to stay with Dortmund. If given a straight choice between he and KDB, I'd choose KDB but we don't know if its either/or or the club wanting both of them (because both can play multiple positions). Draxler is another who plays on the left but he is a Jovetic level crock in the last few years and would be a very risky investment (his form hadn't been great before his latest injury either).
It's also unfair to call Sterling average. He has bad games but also good games (look at his performance against Chelsea at Anfield in the League Cup) and his productivity is good. He has more goals than all of our attacking midfielders except Silva and more assists than ALL of our attacking midfielders. I would totally agree that £50m is too much and would hope we could bring that down a fair bit or make it incentive-based depending on his progress.
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LoveCity said:IWasHere said:LoveCity said:Sterling is 20 years old and proven he's a quality talent. Clubs tend to have a more long-term view than "the last 2 games". 20 year olds will always be imperfect and have bad games. Is there any footballer in history who wouldn't have had bad patches barely out of their teens and playing at one of the toughest competitive levels? They'll consider the past 2 years and the future 10 years. Sterling would be a good investment for us, although £50m is excessive. £30m + add-ons or so would be sound business I think, but unlikely with the English premium and 2 years on his contract.
It's too much imo for someone who's average, whether it's 30 or 50 mil. The amount of youngsters out there that are better than him is unreal. In England coutinho is better than him no doubt, Germany draxler is better than him, so is KDB and meyer has been looking promising recently, Italy have pogba, France veratti, Spain have isco all these players we can get for the same price for an average player on his good day.
Half of these are different players though. It depends on the positions and skill-set the club are looking for and given the reports of our transfer budget, signing Sterling wouldn't necessarily mean we couldn't spend heavily on other players. My guess is we'd have Sterling cutting inside from the left, meaning he would be our Plan B after Reus decided to stay with Dortmund. If given a straight choice between he and KDB, I'd choose KDB but we don't know if its either/or or the club wanting both of them (because both can play multiple positions). Draxler is another who plays on the left but he is a Jovetic level crock in the last few years and would be a very risky investment (his form hadn't been great before his latest injury either).
It's also unfair to call Sterling average. He has bad games but also good games (look at his performance against Chelsea at Anfield in the League Cup) and his productivity is good. He has more goals than all of our attacking midfielders except Silva and more assists than ALL of our attacking midfielders. I would totally agree that £50m is too much and would hope we could bring that down a fair bit or make it incentive-based depending on his progress.
I agree, Sterling didn't get the European golden boy award for nothing.
It's hard to judge him at the moment because with Ibe out he is playing wing back.
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Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:richards30 said:Gonna give us any more hints tolm? The league the player plays in? Team?
It certainly isn't bale, I wish people would shut the fuck up about him....
How do you know?
That's very disappointing if true, he would be the best signing we could make other than Messi/Ronaldo who are clearly unobtainable.
Not sure why Pogba or Bale would choose rags over us, what can they offer that we can't these days?
LoveCity said:IWasHere said:LoveCity said:Sterling is 20 years old and proven he's a quality talent. Clubs tend to have a more long-term view than "the last 2 games". 20 year olds will always be imperfect and have bad games. Is there any footballer in history who wouldn't have had bad patches barely out of their teens and playing at one of the toughest competitive levels? They'll consider the past 2 years and the future 10 years. Sterling would be a good investment for us, although £50m is excessive. £30m + add-ons or so would be sound business I think, but unlikely with the English premium and 2 years on his contract.
It's too much imo for someone who's average, whether it's 30 or 50 mil. The amount of youngsters out there that are better than him is unreal. In England coutinho is better than him no doubt, Germany draxler is better than him, so is KDB and meyer has been looking promising recently, Italy have pogba, France veratti, Spain have isco all these players we can get for the same price for an average player on his good day.
Half of these are different players though. It depends on the positions and skill-set the club are looking for and given the reports of our transfer budget, signing Sterling wouldn't necessarily mean we couldn't spend heavily on other players. My guess is we'd have Sterling cutting inside from the left, meaning he would be our Plan B after Reus decided to stay with Dortmund. If given a straight choice between he and KDB, I'd choose KDB but we don't know if its either/or or the club wanting both of them (because both can play multiple positions). Draxler is another who plays on the left but he is a Jovetic level crock in the last few years and would be a very risky investment (his form hadn't been great before his latest injury either).
It's also unfair to call Sterling average. He has bad games but also good games (look at his performance against Chelsea at Anfield in the League Cup) and his productivity is good. He has more goals than all of our attacking midfielders except Silva and more assists than ALL of our attacking midfielders. I would totally agree that £50m is too much and would hope we could bring that down a fair bit or make it incentive-based depending on his progress.
See where you're coming from now mate. if we want to buy a winger who will play in a 433 formation (if we decide to play this formation next season) we could get lucas who's proven his fourth, just been unfortunate with injury. Rues would've been on top of my list like many others also.
Imo if you compare sterling with other youngsters around the world he's average. He wouldn't get into any top teams imo. If he joined chelsea who would he play for? Hazard? Willian? Oscar? If he joined arsenal who would he play for? Sanchez? Ozil? Chamberlain or Walcott? If he joined psg who would he play for? Cavani? Lucas? Pastore? Same can be said about bayern, barca and madrid. These are top teams. Now let's look at average teams. Schalke, who's he going to play for draxler? Meyer who's look promising. A.Madrid? Turan? Koke? Griezmann? Please tell me he's average compared to the players mentioned above, if not I'm gonna start watching rugby.
On another note at least you've come up with a reasonable counter argument but it's obvious I'm gonna win ;-) .