“The work of God”?

KS55 said:
This last para is not true. You gave two sources for morality: for believers it comes from god, for atheists it comes from their own brain. I responded to the second, which you studiously ignored. If you, incorrectly, tell me where my moral sense comes from, it is only polite to respond to my refutation. You sound like an Alpha course, but this is a debate, not a teach in.
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Sorry, that’s not what I meant at all.

I meant that if atheism is true then morality is at its highest level within an individual human’s brain.

If Christianity is true it’s set as a standard above us.

Your morality doesn’t differ from mine either way, in that regard, in terms of where it comes from.

I am not stating, to be very clear, that the religious are privy to a morality that the irreligious are not.

Which ever is true, it’s true for us all.

My view is that God has given us all morality and every person that has ever lived and we have the free will to be good or be evil. That includes all atheists, Christians, Muslims etc. Everyone.
 
Ban-jani said:
Sorry, that’s not what I meant at all.

I meant that if atheism is true then morality is at its highest level within an individual human’s brain.

If Christianity is true it’s set as a standard above us.

Your morality doesn’t differ from mine either way, in that regard, in terms of where it comes from.

I am not stating, to be very clear, that the religious are privy to a morality that the irreligious are not.

Which ever is true, it’s true for us all.

My view is that God has given us all morality and every person that has ever lived and we have the free will to be good or be evil. That includes all atheists, Christians, Muslims etc. Everyone.
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Metron anthropos
 
hammocity said:
I'm not religious but the "hatch, match and despatch" of Christenings, weddings and funerals are part of culture, doesn't matter which faith you have, those ceremonies are part of all our lives. Some of the bile in this thread is uncalled for, live and let live.
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Correct every culture has a bonding or marriage of some kind and a funeral/wake. Religion isn't the reason for that though

Baptism, is present in places missionaries set up and spread chriatianity, but a predominently buddhist, islamic or athiest state doesn't so are only a social thing due to state religion or centuries of religious indoctoration.

So I would agree with two out of three is cultural and would happen no matter the religous nature or not of a society.
 
hammocity said:
I'm not religious but the "hatch, match and despatch" of Christenings, weddings and funerals are part of culture, doesn't matter which faith you have, those ceremonies are part of all our lives. Some of the bile in this thread is uncalled for, live and let live.
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Not if you don’t have religious weddings and funerals (neither of which started with Christianity), and don’t get your kids christened.
 
BimboBob said:
You believe in resurrection.

What about the rest. Moses, the Ark, plagues, Adam and Eve etc etc?
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Yes I believe in the resurrection.

Moses, yes.

Noah’s Ark I don’t believe the Earth as a whole flooded nor do I believe the story literally but the book could have been written in relation to several major floods that happened, as a myth.

Plagues I don’t know.

Adam and Eve no, I view that story as a metaphor for human disobedience.
 
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