10 | Jack Grealish - 2021/22 Performances

[Radiohead1981]

Flopping, thats funny. Go ahead question all you like.

For city he has. Brilliant in the premier league. Of that there is no doubt.

 

[blueparrot]

For city he has. Brilliant in the premier league. Of that there is no doubt.

So a final of the champions league is a flop fair enough.In the end if we keep winning the league I can live with that
After 6 years of Pep buying players that take a year to bed in why do you think Grealish is different.
I know my thinking is learn from Peps record of buying players and getting them to become important cogs in our team almost every time, don’t even know wht position he sees for him in the future. I know when I question Pep I think to myself best wait and see because he will probably make me look a bit silly in hind sight.
Maybe with Grealish you will get lucky and be able to say told you, I rate your chance at 1% or less.

 

[oakiecokie]

So a final of the champions league is a flop fair enough.In the end if we keep winning the league I can live with that
After 6 years of Pep buying players that take a year to bed in why do you think Grealish is different.
I know my thinking is learn from Peps record of buying players and getting them to become important cogs in our team almost every time. I know when I question Pep I think to myself best wait and see because he will probably make me look a bit silly in hind sight.

Spot on !!
We just have to look at KDB,Bernie,Cancelo,Rodri etc to see how he makes players into top draw players.

 

[applejuice]

Strange how it’s not a problem when Foden is on the left wing. Couldn’t have a better left back to link up with and receive great passes. It’s fairly rare Walker actually overlaps on the other side as he tends to sit as Cancelo is allowed to roam. Lack of pace and left peg is a big problem for Jack out there not who’s playing left back.

This is my own opinion. Happy to discuss. But I think that it is more about the preferred foot. Grealish competed with Sterling on the left wing, not Foden.

Foden is left footed. He is a traditional left winger - left foot on left wing. Grealish is an inverted left winger - right foot on the left wing. So Foden has no crossing problem playing with Cancelo. B

Same thing happened in England when Southgate played Foden on the right wing. Since England's right back rarely overlapped as well- Foden looked not as good as he did for City usually.


Thus it is actually not fair to say that Grealish takes Foden's time because they are not the same kind. It is more fair to say Grealish takes Sterling's time on the left wing. Because they are the primary inverted left winger in the squad. Foden and Stones invited and persuaded Grealish to join City when they played in England last year.

When Pep wants a traditional winger on the left side to cross, he picks Foden (for example Liverpool, Man utd). Because these team have problem of protecting the space behind (Liverpool high line and Man utd laughable defending)

Chelsea is very very good at protecting the space behind. Even if you put a lovely cross like Foden/Grealish/Sterling did several times yesterday. Chelsea defenders would make sure other City players not on a better position than them. So the crossing were not that dangerous as it looked to the audience. You would find all better positions were taken by Chelsea defenders first. Unless we have a very good striker who is physically strong enought to be able to get to the better position facing Chelsea CBs - those crossing are likely to end up with nothing.

On the other side, Man utd poor defenders are not well trained. Even they tried to play 5 persons defending like Chelsea, they did not really know where the city players were when we attacked in waves. So they would either hurry to try to clear the ball and resulted in worse situation like own goal when we crossed - or forgot to clear the ball and resulted in Bernado's goal.

Pep played an inverted left winger on the left wing facing Chelsea. The main task was gaining as much as attention - rather than crossing. Thus an inverted wing back who could cut inside - suited the best. Kante had to move to protect Azp to provent the cutting inside route. If a traditional winger was played there, Rudiger would protect the space behind and you cannot tire Rudiger out in 90min.

Thus we saw that Grealish and Cancelo played all their slow tricks on the left wing. Kante rushed there to help AZP. Then Kovacic had to move to the central. Grealish/Cancelo would only pass the ball back to Rodri when they saw Kovacic made the move. Then we shifted the ball to the right and let Sterling run quickly at Alonso. Kovacic had to run back to protect Alonso and Sarr. Time after times Kovacic burnt out - made an error in the 1st half and gave us a golden chance (Grealish SHOULD put it in the net). Then in the 2nd half, Kovacic and Kante were even more slower and Kovacic tracked back way too slow to protect the central space and KDB shot comfortably. Pep's master plan won again.

Pep played a very similar plan in CL final. Deployed an inverted left winger - Sterling. However the problem was on the right side it was Mahrez - an inverted winger. Thus Chelsea defenders did not need to move and rotate that much. You need to have an inverted winger + a natural winger to play this trick. Thus in the following 2 games, Pep used Grealish + Jesus and Grealish + Sterling. And it worked well for us. Given Mahrez was away, there were only Sterling/Jesus available on the right wing, both natural winger. Thus it had to be Grealish to start on the left. IF Grealish was still with covid, I guess Pep perhaps started Jesus on the left + Sterling on the right.

It is not about who is better - but who is more suitable.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

This is my own opinion. Happy to discuss. But I think that it is more about the preferred foot. Grealish competed with Sterling on the left wing, not Foden.

Foden is left footed. He is a traditional left winger - left foot on left wing. Grealish is an inverted left winger - right foot on the left wing. So Foden has no crossing problem playing with Cancelo. B

Same thing happened in England when Southgate played Foden on the right wing. Since England's right back rarely overlapped as well- Foden looked not as good as he did for City usually.


Thus it is actually not fair to say that Grealish takes Foden's time because they are not the same kind. It is more fair to say Grealish takes Sterling's time on the left wing. Because they are the primary inverted left winger in the squad. Foden and Stones invited and persuaded Grealish to join City when they played in England last year.

When Pep wants a traditional winger on the left side to cross, he picks Foden (for example Liverpool, Man utd). Because these team have problem of protecting the space behind (Liverpool high line and Man utd laughable defending)

Chelsea is very very good at protecting the space behind. Even if you put a lovely cross like Foden/Grealish/Sterling did several times yesterday. Chelsea defenders would make sure other City players not on a better position than them.

Man utd poor defenders are not well trained. They don't really know where the city players are when we attack in waves. So they will hurry to try to clear the ball and result in worse situation like own goal when we cross.

Thus Pep played an inverted left winger on the left wing facing Chelsea. The main task was attacking as much as attention - rather than crossing. Thus an inverted wing back who could cut inside - suited the best. Kante had to move to protect Azp to provent the cutting inside route. If a traditional winger was played there, Rudiger would protect the space behind and you cannot tire Rudiger out in 90min.

Thus we saw that Grealish and Cancelo played all their slow tricks on the left wing. Kante rushed there to help AZP. Then Kovacic had to move to the central. Grealish/Cancelo would only pass the ball back to Rodri when they saw Kovacic made the move. Then we shifted the ball to the right and let Sterling run quickly at Alonso. Kovacic had to run back to protect Alonso and Sarr. Time after times Kovacic tired out - made an error in the 1st half and gave us a golden chance (Grealish SHOULD put it in the net). Then in the 2nd half, Kovacic and Kante were even more slower and Kovacic tracked back way too slow to protect the central space and KDB shot comfortably. Pep's master plan won again.

Pep played a very similar plan in CL final. Deployed an inverted left winger - Sterling. However the problem was on the right side it was Mahrez - an inverted winger. Thus Chelsea defenders did not need to move and rotate that much. You need to have an inverted winger + a natural winger to play this trick. Thus in the following 2 games, Pep used Grealish + Jesus and Grealish + Sterling. And it worked well for us. Given Mahrez was away, there were only Sterling/Jesus available on the right wing, both natural winger. Thus it had to be Grealish to start on the left. IF Grealish was still with covid, I guess Pep perhaps started Jesus on the left + Sterling on the right.

It is not about who is better - but who is more suitable.

Lot of time taken with that Mr applejuice , well done.

However not sure that the posters who have decided that Grealish is a waste of money will take much notice though.

Pep has wasted the £100m :}

 

[alexmcity]

My main concern there is that Grealish simply doesn't have the same level of natural talent as Mahrez

He does, he's much better than Mahrez at keeping the ball under pressure, and that's a huge quality for a Pep team. Few attacking players in the world are as good at keeping possession in the final 3rd as Grealish. That's why he was signed, imo. He lacks confidence to try more ambitious (creative) moves, but it will come, probably already this season.

 

[WestGorton]

I thought he fought versus Chelsea. Ok he did not take the chance but fought physically and kept attacking with real control of the ball in the second half. Good lad is Jack. Loves City now too is the nice rumour.

 

[applejuice]

Lot of time taken with that Mr applejuice , well done.

However not sure that the posters who have decided that Grealish is a waste of money will take much notice though.

Pep has wasted the £100m :}

Thanks :)
I don't think Grealish is 100m player (at least when he played for Villa) perhaps 70m. However when it comes to bring in a new player- I would rather see Pep to spend 100m on a 70m player - than to spent 30m on a 50m player.

Look at Chelsea, that used to be their way of signing players. Thus they get a handful of 2nd rate attacking players in the squad like Ziyech Werner...

 

[simon23]

He wasn't the worst performer on Saturday; not remotely.

We clearly differ in opinion then

 

[simon23]

I think KDB has probably been our poorest performer this year. Naturally, he's earned patience.

Imagine beginning at a new job and then having constant criticism during your first few weeks about how poor you were, even though you were in the process of learning about your company's strategy, the roles of fellow employees and managers?

I wouldn't disagree on Kdb...upto a few weeks ago...he has been getting his form back however.

It's not totally a new job either...different but not totally different