10 | Jack Grealish - 2021/22 Performances

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Someone making mistakes in their first season deserves more leeway than someone making the same mistakes season after season.
Exactly,plus there is huge mitigation with Grealish.

He is being required to reinvent himself as well as find his feet in a new team and new surroundings.

Last night was the first time we have seen the shackles off,playing his natural game,driving into the box,drawing defenders and winning fouls.....and he was all the better for it.
 
Man shut the fuck up. It's clear for everyone to see that people are quick to call out Sterling, Jesus and Mahrez but turn a blind eye when Grealish does a "Grealish"
Shhhhh. You’ve got nothing to say and you’re saying it too loud.
 
Haha, are people really trying to say those two chances he created all by himself out of nothing are something to complain about?

I do still think him and Zinchenko should have done better down the left defending the crosses for both goals. I haven't watched the game back to see if that first impression was right, not ready for that, not sure I want to.
 
3 goals and 3 assists in 25(5) game across Champs league and Prem

He's a decent players, but we've had our pants well and truely pulled down

Us getting Grealish when we needed a CF and Liverpool getting Dias (who is carrying them) is looking like it will decide the season

Needs to do a LOT more
This. Had a huge bearing on the season imo.

5 goals, 3 assists and he’s only been there since Feb. Mainly a sub too.
 
Goal contributions across all club competitions for the three players in question, covering the season they joined us and the 3 seasons prior, making no comment on and no allowance for the quality of the competition, time spent injured, or freak events like Grealish getting 2G 3A in one match against Liverpool last year. With their age at the start of the season in brackets after the season, for a little context.

Mahrez:
15/16 (24) - 18G 10A = 28
16/17 (25) - 10G 7A = 17
17/18 (26) - 13G 13A = 26
18/19 (27) - 12G 12A = 24
The year he joined us his goal contributions equalled 92% of what he achieved the previous year and 101% his average of the previous 3 years.

Bernardo:
14/15 (20) - 10G 4A = 14
15/16 (21) - 7G 3A = 10
16/17 (22) - 11G 12A = 23
17/18 (23) - 9G 11A = 20
The year he joined us his goal contributions equalled 87% of what he achieved the previous year and and 128% his average of the previous 3 years.

Grealish:
18/19 (22) - 6G 8A = 14
19/20 (23) - 10G 8A = 18
20/21 (24) - 7G 12A = 19
21/22 (25) - 5G 3A = 8
The year he joined us his goal contributions (so far!) equal 42% of what he achieved the previous year and 47% his average of the previous 3 years.

This tells us 3 things:
1) Judge his numbers against his record, not the others'. I'm working on the assumption here that we bought him knowing and liking his skillset, not expecting him to be something he's not. So yeah, his first season he's got a third as many GAs as Mahrez got the year he joined. But Grealish's annual average return before he joined us was 17, where Mahrez's was nearly 24. So we surely haven't bought him expecting him to return Mahrez numbers (although we should be looking to push him to around 2 thirds).

2) That said, he has struggled to deliver the numbers this year. I don't necessarily think it's the big crisis some make out. Goals and assists are the bread and butter of football, he wants them and we want them for him, but nonetheless it is possible to contribute in other ways and (although he's often been frustrating to watch this year) I get the impression - from what he and Pep have said, from the game time he's been getting which is broadly on par with Mahrez and Bernardo's first seasons, from Pep's general attitude towards him - that he is grasping what's been asked of him and contributing in other ways (as the link @plebhead8 shared demonstrates)

3) Mahrez and Bernardo both saw a slight dip across both goals and assists the year they joined us compared to the previous year. Jack's seen a similar dip in his goals stats, but what's really hit him is his assist numbers have collapsed.

I think the absence of a real striker has hurt, because he's got no previous experience of providing for a false 9 or any system where there's no up-front focal point. Where Mahrez, Bernardo and the rest at have learnt that system alongside the rest of the team and had years to acclimatise to it gradually alongside players they know well, working out how best to play in the system, Jack's been thrown into an established system and has found it hard to work out how to maximise his talents.

Jack got 12 assists last year, comparable to both Mahrez and Bernardo the respective years they joined us. Both those years, we had Aguero scoring 30+ goals, not to mention our other players chipping in for fun. Villa's top goalscorer last season was 16-goal Ollie Watkins.

I don't think he's ever going to score a shit load of goals for us. But give him even a half-decent striker and he'll smash the assists.
Good post

the problem for Jack is he has been playing in a position where in this side you have to deliver goals and assists , especially without a striker

he has barely delivered on this score, but he’s a very good player - anyone can see that without having to look at the stats

but his chance creation stats are really good , he‘s third in the league for chance creation and shot creating actions

he will be gradually moved to the number 8 position I think, put a striker ahead of him and he’ll get bucketloads of assists
 
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Exactly,plus there is huge mitigation with Grealish.

He is being required to reinvent himself as well as find his feet in a new team and new surroundings.

Last night was the first time we have seen the shackles off,playing his natural game,driving into the box,drawing defenders and winning fouls.....and he was all the better for it.
Absolutely spot on...there is so much more to come from Jack.
 
I think he'll be fine next season but hopefully he'll understand that he has to work harder too.
Being a midfield player in a Pep side requires more than just assists or creating chances, you need to graft too & he's not up to speed with that yet
 
Goal contributions across all club competitions for the three players in question, covering the season they joined us and the 3 seasons prior, making no comment on and no allowance for the quality of the competition, time spent injured, or freak events like Grealish getting 2G 3A in one match against Liverpool last year. With their age at the start of the season in brackets after the season, for a little context.

Mahrez:
15/16 (24) - 18G 10A = 28
16/17 (25) - 10G 7A = 17
17/18 (26) - 13G 13A = 26
18/19 (27) - 12G 12A = 24
The year he joined us his goal contributions equalled 92% of what he achieved the previous year and 101% his average of the previous 3 years.

Bernardo:
14/15 (20) - 10G 4A = 14
15/16 (21) - 7G 3A = 10
16/17 (22) - 11G 12A = 23
17/18 (23) - 9G 11A = 20
The year he joined us his goal contributions equalled 87% of what he achieved the previous year and and 128% his average of the previous 3 years.

Grealish:
18/19 (22) - 6G 8A = 14
19/20 (23) - 10G 8A = 18
20/21 (24) - 7G 12A = 19
21/22 (25) - 5G 3A = 8
The year he joined us his goal contributions (so far!) equal 42% of what he achieved the previous year and 47% his average of the previous 3 years.

This tells us 3 things:
1) Judge his numbers against his record, not the others'. I'm working on the assumption here that we bought him knowing and liking his skillset, not expecting him to be something he's not. So yeah, his first season he's got a third as many GAs as Mahrez got the year he joined. But Grealish's annual average return before he joined us was 17, where Mahrez's was nearly 24. So we surely haven't bought him expecting him to return Mahrez numbers (although we should be looking to push him to around 2 thirds).

2) That said, he has struggled to deliver the numbers this year. I don't necessarily think it's the big crisis some make out. Goals and assists are the bread and butter of football, he wants them and we want them for him, but nonetheless it is possible to contribute in other ways and (although he's often been frustrating to watch this year) I get the impression - from what he and Pep have said, from the game time he's been getting which is broadly on par with Mahrez and Bernardo's first seasons, from Pep's general attitude towards him - that he is grasping what's been asked of him and contributing in other ways (as the link @plebhead8 shared demonstrates)

3) Mahrez and Bernardo both saw a slight dip across both goals and assists the year they joined us compared to the previous year. Jack's seen a similar dip in his goals stats, but what's really hit him is his assist numbers have collapsed.

I think the absence of a real striker has hurt, because he's got no previous experience of providing for a false 9 or any system where there's no up-front focal point. Where Mahrez, Bernardo and the rest at have learnt that system alongside the rest of the team and had years to acclimatise to it gradually alongside players they know well, working out how best to play in the system, Jack's been thrown into an established system and has found it hard to work out how to maximise his talents.

Jack got 12 assists last year, comparable to both Mahrez and Bernardo the respective years they joined us. Both those years, we had Aguero scoring 30+ goals, not to mention our other players chipping in for fun. Villa's top goalscorer last season was 16-goal Ollie Watkins.

I don't think he's ever going to score a shit load of goals for us. But give him even a half-decent striker and he'll smash the assists.

Again, it’s fine analysis.

1, I judge his numbers based on players he shares similar positions with. I’ll also judge the numbers I expect based on him playing for City, not a team in and out of the Championship.

2, he has struggled, but i’ve only offered up the other players as others wrongly claim they were struggling just as much as Grealish.

3, Bernardo & Grealish likely saw a drop off in numbers when they came to City as they went from main men to squad players. Not a dip in actual productivity.

I also don’t see how you can compare Jack’s last season at Villa with the others first season at City. He was their star man. Bernardo & Mahrez settling in at a new club.

Sadly, anyway you spin the stats, it’s Grealish’s stats that are so underwhelming.

Now, if we see a great up turn or a change of position, then we’ll all be happy.

We have dodged a lot of bullets in the transfer market, mainly because United have to out bid and paid more wages for most of the bullets we’d dodged. Grealish might be the bullet we didn’t dodge. Hopefully I’m very wrong.
 
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