10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

wolviedinho said:
Iv always been a big supporter of what he brings to the team. The zero goals/assists in 40 odd games is worrying tho.

On current form I can’t see a renewal.

As you say tho, Pivotal in the treble season and helped us win 4 in a row. You can’t take that away from him.

Overall we seem to be suffering a burnout across the entire club. In hindsight this bad season will probably do everyone the world of good moving forward. Big decisions need made on the playing staff and a collapse like this will sharpen minds.
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I'm a fan too, love him, but agree with previous two Mooners.
youngbob said:
A genuinely stunning thing to say about a player who is likely to leave this club having won a trophy in every season he's played for us. I get that some people think he has major shortcomings but Jack's gonna leave this club with at least three Premier League titles, an FA Cup, a European Cup, and a Community Shield. More decorated than 99% of the players who've passed through the doors at this club. You really let your prejudices show for certain players and it's not becoming of you at all.
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Kaz one totally has it in for Jack all the time, always down on him. She thinks I am a Dipper BTW!! Best to ignore imo.
 
wolviedinho said:
No chance.

Never has been a goal scorer. Raz wasn’t either until he figured out he got no praise until he scored -:)

The £100m price tag is giving a distorted view. Probably only worth half that if we are honest but football finance is out of control.

I don’t know what to make of him sometimes. Certain games he looks the business but mostly stays on the periphery of games.

He falls into the category or transfers that have not been top tier unfortunately and it’s a big reason why the legends are burning out and can’t do what is expected. The club must know this now and decisions will need to be made.
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I might be wrong but i dont think i have been too bothered about his price tag , maybe just when we brought him ? That is not his fault . With the injuries and the legends struggling with burnout , he should be stepping up and leading , that doesnt seem to be in him . I hope he is replaced with someone who is more minded like kev and rodders and father ruben and a positive addition to the attack

Anyway no more to say
 
kaz7 said:
I might be wrong but i dont think i have been too bothered about his price tag , maybe just when we brought him ? That is not his fault . With the injuries and the legends struggling with burnout , he should be stepping up and leading , that doesnt seem to be in him . I hope he is replaced with someone who is more minded like kev and rodders and father ruben and a positive addition to the attack

Anyway no more to say
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Never mind replaced but quality added alongside him. Hard to write off that chunk of change we spent on him. Not sure what his book value will be come the summer.

It’s time for the club to look for value in Europe. The premier is a rip off and most club won’t sell to us anyway.
 
youngbob said:
I'll always hold Raheem higher above Jack in my personal City rankings, but it's the way you talk about Jack with such hate that confuses me. If someone so much as questions Raheem you come flying in telling them off but god forbid anyone defends Jack in this thread - they can feel your wrath coming before it arrives.

Jack didn't play or score as much last season as he should have done, but he still scored the winner at Luton that stopped the mini-slide we'd been on, and he scored goals that got valuable points against Palace and Spurs - goals that, when it all adds up, made a difference at the end of the season and definitely helped the team.

You talk about him like he's another Danny Mills, Steve McManaman type, who just turned up to the club to do nothing except sit on his arse and collect a massive wage. He's not fully delivered on his potential but he contributed a whole lot to the three most special afternoons and nights in City's entire history in 2023.

Alright, fine, you can doubt his quality on the pitch and question his attitude a bit, but you can't say Jack hasn't taken City to his heart. Villa will always be his club but that's to be expected. He's adopted us and we've adopted him and he clearly has great affection for us as fans, Manchester as a whole, and for its people.

When he leaves City, he will still be a treble winner forever. Not just someone who got medals by being part of the squad - he was an important part of the team and started every game that took us to the very pinnacle of the entire sport. When people look back at these times in 30, 40, or 50 years, Jack's name will be part of it.

And you'll just be there... calling him names.
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Hate ? Names ? I supported raz because he fought against the racism from the crowds , newspapers trying to destroy him every day and he was banging in the goals and assists . I didnt say he came here to sit on his arse , he just thought he had won the treble and didnt need to go for more

You should stop putting words in my mouth
 
Looked promising vs Forest playing in the centre. The issue seems to be fitness as he didn't play in the away game vs Palace.
 
69FACUPfinal said:
I'm a fan too, love him, but agree with previous two Mooners.

Kaz one totally has it in for Jack all the time, always down on him. She thinks I am a Dipper BTW!! Best to ignore imo.
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Who asked you , i rarely come in this thread or comment about him ,i am giving my assessment of him b,ecause it matters that he has had a poor 18 months , if you want to counter that then do so, will look in tomorrow and see your well thought out opinion
 
kaz7 said:
Hate ? Names ? I supported raz because he fought against the racism from the crowds , newspapers trying to destroy him every day and he was banging in the goals and assists . I didnt say he came here to sit on his arse , he just thought he had won the treble and didnt need to go for more

You should stop putting words in my mouth
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Kaz, I'm not saying you literally said he came to sit here on his arse, I'm saying the manner in which you talk about him is akin to how we tend to talk about players who genuinely took the club for a ride during the dark days and didn't give a shit about the club or the fans while they were here.

Jack's clearly not one of those types, having bonded with the fans and taken City to his heart despite his deep affection for Villa. I also think you seem to be deliberately overlooking the off-pitch matters which have clearly hampered Jack's form and fitness over the last 12 months.

The break-in at his house, the pregnancy of his partner and the birth of his child (of which we know very few details), his struggle to stay fit as his body starts to let him down now he's approaching the last phase of his career. We don't know what's gone on behind the scenes and we likely never will.

But you still assume that he just lazily slacked off for the entire 23/24 season simply because we won the treble. I come back with factual evidence that he directly helped towards our 91 points that won us the league and you continue to say he stopped putting any and all effort in.

Criticise his quality, criticise his attitude if you want, but your standards for the kind of treatment different players deserve is unusual. Gabriel Jesus banged in goals and assists and won a load of trophies while he was here but I vividly remember having to call you out when you were calling him useless and a waste of space in his last season here.
 
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