super_city_si
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Very good today. Won a lot aerially against lukaku and made a superb block with his chest second half.
Try harder it's not that hard to see. Laporte is a class CB that had an unfortunate long term injury and took a long time to get back to his best. He was healthy last year but somehow fell out of favor.Since I don't find him as impressive as most do, I figured I should point out when he has a fantastic game
Thought he was considerably better than usual yesterday.
You are ascribing here... Ne er said he wasn't a class CB. I just don't rate him as highly as most do. And by that, I mean I rate John and Ruben higher. Some consider Laporte the best CB at the club. I disagree. He is clearly 3rd best in my opinion.Try harder it's not that hard to see. Laporte is a class CB that had an unfortunate long term injury and took a long time to get back to his best. He was healthy last year but somehow fell out of favor.
Again, going by performance, that Partnership during that run of wins was better than anything we've seen. It's not an exclamation, it's a fact! The numbers and performance bore that out out. They had a 3 month stretch that was unmatched.When the bandwagoning fans latched onto the Dias-Stones partnership, exclaiming it the greatest pairing ever coupled with Laporte's desire to leave, the small minded ones soon labeled him as some unwanted superfluous player. That is not even close to the truth. You must be either a very petty person or completely uninformed to even consider Laporte as a left over.
It's not a fetish. Simply compare numbers. Wins, goals conceded, shots conceded, they were better. The lack of honesty is on your part.I've never understood this fetishism of the Dias-Stones partnership like it's some secret technique wanted by all the righteous sects(that's wuxia allusion for the uninitiated). It's not any better than Kompany and Laporte in my book. The pairing in our brilliant 2018-19 season and my joint favorite City season ever along with the Centurion season.
It's not a fetish. Simply compare numbers. Wins, goals conceded, shots conceded, they were better. The lack of honesty is on your part.
Tbh with Stones and Laporte it's basically a case of they're both incredibly good if they aren't making any errors.We conceded 4 goals during the run of 14 wins in 18/19 when every single point was decisive. Plus, last season we defended as a team better than in 18/19, our pressing game was better. In 18/19 we had players like Kun and David who weren't as good and useful at high pressing as Foden and Jesus. Plus we had Rodri who is a better DM than Gundogan (who played at DM after Ferna got injured in February 2019).
Simplistic comparisons of conceded goals and chances won't tell you the whole truth about Kompany/Laporte vs Dias/Stones. I like both Stones and Laporte, but think Laporte has been more consistent since his arrival and is a bit more physical and hard than John. Last season was the only one in which Stones was better than Laporte, and the latter arrived here 4 years ago.
I've never understood this fetishism of the Dias-Stones partnership like it's some secret technique wanted by all the righteous sects(that's wuxia allusion for the uninitiated). It's not any better than Kompany and Laporte in my book. The pairing in our brilliant 2018-19 season and my joint favorite City season ever along with the Centurion season.
We conceded 4 goals during the run of 14 wins in 18/19 when every single point was decisive. Plus, last season we defended as a team better than in 18/19, our pressing game was better. In 18/19 we had players like Kun and David who weren't as good and useful at high pressing as Foden and Jesus. Plus we had Rodri who is a better DM than Gundogan (who played at DM after Ferna got injured in February 2019).
Simplistic comparisons of conceded goals and chances won't tell you the whole truth about Kompany/Laporte vs Dias/Stones. I like both Stones and Laporte, but think Laporte has been more consistent since his arrival and is a bit more physical and hard than John. Last season was the only one in which Stones was better than Laporte, and the latter arrived here 4 years ago.
Kompany and Laporte only played together 7 times in the run-in in all comps (post the Newcastle defeat) in 18/19, including letting in three when we went out of the Champions League to Spurs
They were a formidable partnership, but so were Stones and Dias as we pulled away last season
Thanks for the info.
Laporte started in 11 of the last 14 league games, probably in any of the last 8, and in all big/difficult games in the other compets, he was our main CB during that run. He had a shocker vs Spurs in the 2nd leg, but he was crucial for the domestic treble (or quadruple). Otamendi and Stones were used mostly for rotation purposes in that period (they did very well!). Laporte and Kompany were seen as our best partnership during the run in.
IIRC, Kompany and Laporte started as a pair in the most difficult games (when Kompany was available, that is). They scored crucial goals as well: Kompany vs Leicester and Laporte vs Brighton (the 2nd goal, which turned out to be the winner as well).
I think Dias is better than that, but I take your point.Our best pairing I've seen was Stones-Laporte for the first half of 18/19 season before Stones got injured. LaPorte missed most of following season and we've never really given it a chance since. People seem comforted seeing someone hollering and pointing but a Kompany/Terry/Van Dijk type shouty man is only pertinent under likes of Mancini/Mourinho/Klopp playing bunker football. Leadership under Guardiola is more about taking your own responsibility with courage and helping your mates where you can. Dias is ok but defending these days is done with composure and possession, not flinging yourself at every ball like Ryan Shawcross.
I think Dias is better than that, but I take your point.
I think we have four very good CBs (firmly believe Ake is coming good) and they each have a different set of attributes that are more suited to some matches than others. The challenge for the club is keeping them all fit and happy and building those relationships so that any pairing works and Pep just gets to pick them for tactical reasons.