16 | Rodri - 2021/22 Performances

[samarasra]

I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension, and/or stop being dishonest about other peoples arguments when you can't present your own.

I was specifically referring to people who don't rate Rodri, and that's clear from the context of what I wrote.

The OP I was responding to made a generalisation about people who don't rate Rodri, effectively saying that they're simpletons who don't understand what they're watching. That's patently nonsense, and I responded detailing why people may not rate Rodri. Pretty straightforward.

No problem with my reading or comprehension, it's part of my profession. "Dishonest" !! : I suggest you read your own posts, which have been comprehensively addressed in the past 18 pages imo.
"I responded detailing why people may not rate Rodri. Pretty straightforward." but you said "At no point have I tried to speak for other people." very straightforward indeed. Have a good day.

 

[Phil Mitchell Foden]

Fair enough. It felt like a lie as it conformed with your beliefs. Apologies if it was an honest mistake.


And this constitutes as an argument does it??
Dishonest - Nonsense.
I responeded to the whole of your post bit by bit because it is extremely long and poorly written. I can only make sense of each bad argument one at a time


You realise you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of, right?
I'm not being dishonest about your arument at all. Your arguments have been:
"Rodri isn't good enough"
"We haven't replaced Fernandinho"
"Pep has lost trust in Rodri"

All of which I argued with, point by point, but instead of engaging the the argument you just said I didn't have any arguments (even though I clearly do).


Right back at you. Goodnight.


I have no issue with this part of your argument. No one is a simpleton for not rating Rodri. I just tried to show you that I do rate him, as do 3 of the worlds best managers.


Right back at you. Goodnight.

You're still doing it. Not getting anywhere here are we. Let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Phil Mitchell Foden]

I didn't miss your point/points, I disagree with them, you cannot even make your mind up as to what his "biggest flaw" is "but they have to do the fundamentals well. And ultimately I feel this is Rodri's biggest flaw" 3 lines later " if defensively he was sold - but he isn't. At all. It's his single biggest flaw.

You and kun would make a good double act. Nitpicking, dishonest and asinine in the way you argue and don't address the body of what was said in any real legitimate manner. I make a real effort to explain my perspective and get this shite in response.

Rodri has flaws, plural. I stand by my comment that his single biggest weakness, or flaw, is the defensive aspect of his game - but of course that isn't one single thing. You're right. It's a collection of things he doesn't do that well. Flaws, plural.

But yeah, well argued, really made me consider my views and look at it from a different perspective.

 

[kun]

You and kun would make a good double act. Nitpicking, dishonest and asinine in the way you argue and don't address the body of what was said in any real legitimate manner..

I did but you didn’t bother to read it

 

[samarasra]

You and kun would make a good double act. Nitpicking, dishonest and asinine in the way you argue and don't address the body of what was said in any real legitimate manner. I make a real effort to explain my perspective and get this shite in response.

Rodri has flaws, plural. I stand by my comment that his single biggest weakness, or flaw, is the defensive aspect of his game - but of course that isn't one single thing. You're right. It's a collection of things he doesn't do that well. Flaws, plural.

But yeah, well argued, really made me consider my views and look at it from a different perspective.

What a wit, and so eloquent, you explained your perspective very clearly, without much reference to others perspective or reality imo. Imo your perspective is not based on a factual basis, you wouldn't even finish reading the post of someone who was clearly making reasoned counter points. I understood your perspective I simply disagree with it.

 

[mccity]

 

[kaz7]

Let’s see how he does against top 4 opposition. He will be found out as he always is.
Playing fucking Norwich and he’s a world class player.

Found out so bad he has managed to be in the title and cup winning teams..

 

[kaz7]

Biggest amount of pretentious waffle I've ever read, arrogant too.

People don't rate Rodri for good reason, and it's not because they're simpletons that don't understand what they're watching. For a side like us, Rodri's got the cosiest job. He plays for the most dominant possession side in the league, the vast majority of the time his job is just to keep the ball ticking over and maintain the tempo out the back.

He's not got the array of killer passes that Fernandinho has, can't spray a diagonal like Fernandinho can, but he can keep the ball ticking over and moves it decently enough.

Out of possession though his job is to sit in front of the back four and press the man at the right moments, follow runners, intercept passes, win his one v ones, cover ground, get challenges in and come away with the ball.

And he's not very good at it.

Positionally he's not the best, he'll often come out and press with little to no intensity, and get strolled around leaving his man running through at the exposed back four. In a foot race shoulder to shoulder he loses every time. He's not great in the challenge. Physically he gets outmuscled a lot, especially shoulder to shoulder. He's very leggy and doesn't cover ground well.

You don't see this all that frequently when we're spamming dross like Norwich though, but even then there are occasional glimpses.

But it's when we play an evenly matched side that these flaws are really exposed. Chelsea, United, Liverpool etc etc.

Rodri isn't Baresi. He's not Claude Makele, he's not Busquets.

He's struggling to be undisputed number one in his position at the club, and his only other rival for that role is a 36 year old Fernandinho.

There's a reason for that, and you don't need to be a "football nerd" to understand why.

We haven't adequately replaced Fernandinho, and it should be a priority position for us to fill, just as much as a striker for me, if not more so. I will be absolutely amazed if we don't make it such soon.

I don't think it's unfair to speculate Pep has lost trust in Rodri. I think it's clear he has over the past 6 months. This year is absolutely huge for Rodri, make or break IMO. We will be looking for another 6 soon, just a question of if he's a guaranteed started or not.

He is not dinho , like nobody is dave , wrong to compare him

 

[DATOIA]

Some training sessions were needed and Mr Stable is back <3

 

[mccity]