16 | Rodri - 2021/22 Performances

[Utter bobbins]

This thread is hilarious

 

[MCFCFanTX]

 

[samarasra]

I was in that squad but not anymore. Our most improved player and it's great to see. His vision, awareness mobility and forward passing have improved. Looks much more accomplished and classy this season.

Great to hear, he is a young player improving with the benefit of experience, but the potential was there from the day he arrived. Good fans have the integrity to recognise that they may have undervalued a player in his early days but are now seeing the bigger picture and are happy to be more appreciative of him, while sadly some, seeing the respect he has gained will lay low waiting for a miskick or slip up to come out of hiding to wallow in that moment, unable to admit their misjudgement.

 

[samarasra]

Took him a long ass time to get there but he now looks the fucking part.

Loving the bursts into the box he’s now making. Fernandinho esque at times.

You can see Fernandinho has been working with him.

Took some fans a long ass time to realise the player we had from day one.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Great to hear, he is a young player improving with the benefit of experience, but the potential was there from the day he arrived. Good fans have the integrity to recognise that they may have undervalued a player in his early days but are now seeing the bigger picture and are happy to be more appreciative of him, while sadly some, seeing the respect he has gained will lay low waiting for a miskick or slip up to come out of hiding to wallow in that moment, unable to admit their misjudgement.

The potential was there no doubt, but he was struggling to adapt to the league and our style of play. His slow steady and laboured style looked cumbersome and he most often chose easy option safe passes. I thought he looked more a CB than a DM due to him being 6'-3".

I say it as i see it and at the time Rodri looked like he may not have cut it for us. However, he is now doing so with aplomb and it's great to see. I'm absolutely delighted he has adapted and is now flourishing in the team with several MOtM displays this season. He looks a totally different player and you can see he's now enjoying his game. His vision and foresight has improved, so has his passing. And his speed and turn of pace has definitely improved.

And i agree with @Stoned Rose in "Fernandinho has been working with him." His mentoring of Rodri is paying off big time. I really hope Ferno becomes a coach with us because he has been top quality and a huge influence on our younger players.

 

[samarasra]

The potential was there no doubt, but he was struggling to adapt to the league and our style of play. His slow steady and laboured style looked cumbersome and he most often chose easy option safe passes. I thought he looked more a CB than a DM due to him being 6'-3".

I say it as i see it and at the time Rodri looked like he may not have cut it for us. However, he is now doing so with aplomb and it's great to see. I'm absolutely delighted he has adapted and is now flourishing in the team with several MOtM displays this season. He looks a totally different player and you can see he's now enjoying his game. His vision and foresight has improved, so has his passing. And his speed and turn of pace has definitely improved.

And i agree with @Stoned Rose in "Fernandinho has been working with him." His mentoring of Rodri is paying off big time. I really hope Ferno becomes a coach with us because he has been top quality and a huge influence on our younger players.

I mostly agree with you, except that in the early days, criticism of him by many was well over the top imo. Obviously he's improved with age and experience, but imo the quality was there to be seen in his first season and the impression that he's suddenly turned from the "ugly duckling" to a "swan", is nearly as much an exaggeration as some of the original negative cliches thrown at him. We all see things differently of course and it is great that he is now getting the support of more fans. Pep this week credited Lillo for the tactical work they are doing with him and no doubt Ferna is an influence too. It would be great, as you say, if Ferna stayed as a coach.

 

[Dax777]

We have gone from 'he's shite' to 'he's only good with runners', to 'he's only good when teams man mark'. Soon, all excuses to demean this player will be gone as he is in the very top echelon of the globe's defensive midfielders and irreplaceable in our team.

I'm sorry, I'm going to have to disagree here....






He isn't 'in the very top' he IS the very top :)

 

[M16 citeh]

What a gulf between rodri and the rest!

 

[ctwrd]

I also didn’t think he was good enough to replace Fernandinho.
Most impressive aspects for me are the fact he seems much quicker than he was and is also able to contribute in an attacking sense as well.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Needs to be better than that, first half he gave the ball away too many times in dangerous positions that decent opposition would have scored from and let joelinton glide by him too easily. Better second half.

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

A bit rash and sloppy today, glad he got another early finish as we need to manage his workload very carefully

 

[Shaffer92]

I thought from the start he looked nervous. Hopefully just a blip.

 

[DATOIA]

Needs to be better than that, first half he gave the ball away too many times in dangerous positions that decent opposition would have scored from and let joelinton glide by him too easily. Better second half.

That's because he didn't get much support from those "number eights"..

We always forget that Rodri wasn't a bad player even in his first season, but our midfield has improved during the last two seasons and has been playing as an unit..

If he doesn't get Bernardo on that RCM position - he will always struggle.. Because he needs that help and there is no defensive midfielder in the world - who doesn't..

Whenever you break that Rodri-Bernardo partnership - you break our midfield..

P.S While analyzing players - people forget to look at the team in overall and then make the judgements.. Football is a team sport and even Messi can't shine individually, if team selection isn't chosen correctly..

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

That's because he didn't get much support from those "number eights"..

We always forget that Rodri wasn't a bad player even in his first season, but our midfield has improved during the last two seasons and has been playing as an unit..

If he doesn't get Bernardo on that RCM position - he will always struggle.. Because he needs that help and there is no defensive midfielder in the world - who doesn't..

Whenever you break that Rodri-Bernardo partnership - you break our midfield..

P.S While analyzing players - people forget to look at the team in overall and then make the judgements.. Football is a team sport and even Messi can't shine individually, if team selection isn't chosen correctly..

But we didn't break the Rodri-Bernardo partnership, they both played. Whether Bernardo plays nominally as the right or left "8" shouldn't affect Rodri that much, given Rodri plays centrally regardless

 

[super_city_si]

Pep managing his time excellently

 

[DATOIA]

But we didn't break the Rodri-Bernardo partnership, they both played. Whether Bernardo plays nominally as the right or left "8" shouldn't affect Rodri that much, given Rodri plays centrally regardless

Yep, but Bernardo struggles with the positioning on the left and can't receive the ball as comfortable as he receives on the right.. That's why during the build-up we struggled a little bit..

Bernardo needs space when he receives the ball to dribble and possess the ball, when he is on the right - he cuts inside and starts dribbling. When he is on the left, it's difficult to cut inside as he plays with the right foot and that's not easy..

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

Yep, but Bernardo struggles with the positioning on the left and can't receive the ball as comfortable as he receives on the right.. That's why during the build-up we struggled a little bit..

Bernardo needs space when he receives the ball to dribble and possess the ball, when he is on the right - he cuts inside and starts dribbling. When he is on the left, it's difficult to cut inside as he plays with the right foot and that's not easy..

I get where you're coming from, but that shouldn't be a huge issue for Bernardo. David Silva usually played as the left "8" and never seemed to have much problem receiving the ball and dribbling with it on that side, and he was even more one-footed than Bernardo

 

[DATOIA]

I get where you're coming from, but that shouldn't be a huge issue for Bernardo. David Silva usually played as the left "8" and never seemed to have much problem receiving the ball and dribbling with it on that side, and he was even more one-footed than Bernardo

David Silvas was David Silva and that's why :D

Bernardo struggles there, always better on the other side..

Also, Silva started his career in Valencia as a LCM or LW

Bernardo started his career as a RCM or RW>

Maybe experience plays a big role here.. who knows, but fact is - RCM is his "best" position so far..

 

[ninjamonkey]

That's because he didn't get much support from those "number eights"..

We always forget that Rodri wasn't a bad player even in his first season, but our midfield has improved during the last two seasons and has been playing as an unit..

If he doesn't get Bernardo on that RCM position - he will always struggle.. Because he needs that help and there is no defensive midfielder in the world - who doesn't..

Whenever you break that Rodri-Bernardo partnership - you break our midfield..

P.S While analyzing players - people forget to look at the team in overall and then make the judgements.. Football is a team sport and even Messi can't shine individually, if team selection isn't chosen correctly..

Having read this and your subsequent posts I wouldn't say you're neccesarily wrong, I get what your saying and it's a fair point but I think you've put too much emphasis on it's importance both in general but particularly this specific match and how it played out. Bernardo being on the other side isn't forcing Rodri to give the ball away uncontested with suicide balls, there was just a few who are usually reliable that were off it today. I think it's fair to just say they had a sub-standard performance.

 

[samarasra]

Having read this and your subsequent posts I wouldn't say you're neccesarily wrong, I get what your saying and it's a fair point but I think you've put too much emphasis on it's importance both in general but particularly this specific match and how it played out. Bernardo being on the other side isn't forcing Rodri to give the ball away uncontested with suicide balls, there was just a few who are usually reliable that were off it today. I think it's fair to just say they had a sub-standard performance.

It's a finely tuned engine, little changes have a knock on effect on overall performance.