19 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2024/25

A year too far for him. However, he deserves the best as he seems a thoroughly decent bloke. He was immense for several seasons scoring importing goals.

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At the risk of sounding horrible, I think we'd have had a better record without him. We'd have been forced to Play O'Reilly or Wright and let them grow.
Im not sure mate, it would have been a big ask for a kid to step in every three days and play what i consider the most demanding role in football(being a cdm in a guardiola team), to do it while we are so disjointed and running so low on confidence could have ruined either of them. Look at Simpson Pusey his confidence is abs shot and he is a nervous wreck despite not having to play much. I would suspect our results would have been much much worse without gundo(i havent checked but someone mentioned we have conceded a load of goals once he goes off, the derby being one, he went off at 3up against feynoord too top of my head). It would have been valuable experience for wright or o reilly but not sure we would have gained much else.
 
At the risk of sounding horrible, I think we'd have had a better record without him. We'd have been forced to Play O'Reilly or Wright and let them grow.
For me it all is a bit hindsight.

I think most fans were happy to bring him back without thinking about it.

But in hindsight we now realize, wait, he is really old, and this clearly meant upper management didnt plan out signings very well or thought of the youth at all.

Nothing about Gundogan of course, I kind of hope after this season he realizes that he should go into managing a bit more.

Maybe he and Kev (both have their badges) can manage our youth teams?
 
For me it all is a bit hindsight.

I think most fans were happy to bring him back without thinking about it.

But in hindsight we now realize, wait, he is really old, and this clearly meant upper management didnt plan out signings very well or thought of the youth at all.

Nothing about Gundogan of course, I kind of hope after this season he realizes that he should go into managing a bit more.

Maybe he and Kev (both have their badges) can manage our youth teams?

He’d be absolutely fine coming on for a few mins here and there as a sub, which is what he came back for.

Playing him 90 mins three times a week in a team that’s falling apart at the seams is/was the problem. That’s on the club, not Gundo.
 

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