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The guy on sky sports said it all for me. Good analysis
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194.5m losses 2010/2011
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bluelol
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tolmie's hairdoo said:Next set of accounts will stun and shut up a lot of people, Barring a couple of upcoming announcements in the pipe...it really is as simple as this.
Champions League revenues/TV/qualification points circa £30-35m - CHECK
Premier League winners/runners up - £42-£50m - CHECK
Etihad Stadium rights and shirt sponsorship - £35m - CHECK
Season ticket revenues/gate receipts - £20m - CHECK
Other related media partners - £15m - CHECK
Jerome Boateng sale - £10-11m - CHECK
Carlos Tevez - sale - upwards of £20m - CHECK
SWP - sale - £3m - CHECK
Tevez fines - £1m plus - CHECK
Shay Given sale - £4m - CHECK
THAT'S £190M RIGHT THERE...before winning any other trophy, selling any other player in January outside of Tevez.
Oh, and before we decide to start printing money with whatever the leisure destination will be.
Fucking geniuses these guys, don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
This does it for me and my sentiments as well, a pleasure to do business with you tolm
Prestwich_Blue
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Both of those are mostly "new money" so just add them to the £153m we turned over this year. We should be showing something in the region of £230m turnover in the next accounts. We will still show a loss but virtually all of that will be down to player amortisation I believe.tolmie's hairdoo said:Next set of accounts will stun and shut up a lot of people, Barring a couple of upcoming announcements in the pipe...it really is as simple as this.
Champions League revenues/TV/qualification points circa £30-35m - CHECK
Etihad Stadium rights and shirt sponsorship - £35m - CHECK
But the first break-even target is a two year deficit of 45 Million Euros. Is that achievable?
Even if not, significant progress from a £195m loss is inevitable, and the regulations state "An improving trend in the annual breakeven results will be viewed more favourably than a worsening trend."
Even if not, significant progress from a £195m loss is inevitable, and the regulations state "An improving trend in the annual breakeven results will be viewed more favourably than a worsening trend."
BoyBlue_1985
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Marvin said:But the first break-even target is a two year deficit of 45 Million Euros. Is that achievable?
Even if not, significant progress from a £195m loss is inevitable, and the regulations state "An improving trend in the annual breakeven results will be viewed more favourably than a worsening trend."
I wouldnt worry mate we will just have to take some fines for the first few years and then hopefully platini will choke on his mothers cock one Sunday and the keep the small clubs down rule will be a bad memory
Prestwich_Blue
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Yes I believe so. Been doing some quick calculations to keeo me occupied before I set off for the game and I believe our adjusted results for FFPR will all be positive.Marvin said:But the first break-even target is a two year deficit of 45 Million Euros. Is that achievable?
2011/12
Result per accounts -£85m
FFPR adjustment +£120m (possibly conservative)
FFPR result £35m profit
2012/13
Result per accounts -£20m
FFPR adjustment +£30m
FFPR result £10m profit
That means our first FFPR assessment in 2013/14 will show a surplus of £45m. PASS
2013/14
Result per accounts +£15m
FFPR adjustment +£20m
FFPR result £35m profit
Therefore our second FFPR assessment in 2014/15 will show a surplus of £80m. PASS
Obviously these figures are best guesses but I was close with my "back of an envelope" figure for this years so feel reasoanbly happy with them plus there's a large margin for error in these.
So should be no problem at all.
Prestwich_Blue said:Yes I believe so. Been doing some quick calculations to keeo me occupied before I set off for the game and I believe our adjusted results for FFPR will all be positive.Marvin said:But the first break-even target is a two year deficit of 45 Million Euros. Is that achievable?
2011/12
Result per accounts -£85m
FFPR adjustment +£120m (possibly conservative)
FFPR result £35m profit
2012/13
Result per accounts -£20m
FFPR adjustment +£30m
FFPR result £10m profit
That means our first FFPR assessment in 2013/14 will show a surplus of £45m. PASS
2013/14
Result per accounts +£15m
FFPR adjustment +£20m
FFPR result £35m profit
Therefore our second FFPR assessment in 2014/15 will show a surplus of £80m. PASS
Obviously these figures are best guesses but I was close with my "back of an envelope" figure for this years so feel reasoanbly happy with them plus there's a large margin for error in these.
So should be no problem at all.
Where does your £120m FFPR adjustment come from?
Prestwich_Blue
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Wages for players under contracts signed prior to June 1st 2010. Possibly £80m although could be much more.cibaman said:Prestwich_Blue said:Yes I believe so. Been doing some quick calculations to keeo me occupied before I set off for the game and I believe our adjusted results for FFPR will all be positive.Marvin said:But the first break-even target is a two year deficit of 45 Million Euros. Is that achievable?
2011/12
Result per accounts -£85m
FFPR adjustment +£120m (possibly conservative)
FFPR result £35m profit
2012/13
Result per accounts -£20m
FFPR adjustment +£30m
FFPR result £10m profit
That means our first FFPR assessment in 2013/14 will show a surplus of £45m. PASS
2013/14
Result per accounts +£15m
FFPR adjustment +£20m
FFPR result £35m profit
Therefore our second FFPR assessment in 2014/15 will show a surplus of £80m. PASS
Obviously these figures are best guesses but I was close with my "back of an envelope" figure for this years so feel reasoanbly happy with them plus there's a large margin for error in these.
So should be no problem at all.
Where does your £120m FFPR adjustment come from?
Amortisation on players held for sale - £20-25m
Spending on youth development, community and infrastructure - £15m.
babua_blue
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Season ticket revenues/gate receipts - £20m - CHECK
I have asked this question earlier on this forum aswell but never got a satisfactory answer . Maybe those blues who are from Manchester may throw some light on this . Liverpool is not as big as Manchester and liverpool are not in CL aswell . Then how do they generate around 40m - 50 m whereas we despite having a bigger stadium only generate 20 mil . Rags only have 30 k more than us but they generate 125 mil !! i understand higher prices in london but why do we generate so less compared to Liverpud and rags :( .
babua_blue said:Season ticket revenues/gate receipts - £20m - CHECK
I have asked this question earlier on this forum aswell but never got a satisfactory answer . Maybe those blues who are from Manchester may throw some light on this . Liverpool is not as big as Manchester and liverpool are not in CL aswell . Then how do they generate around 40m - 50 m whereas we despite having a bigger stadium only generate 20 mil . Rags only have 30 k more than us but they generate 125 mil !! i understand higher prices in london but why do we generate so less compared to Liverpud and rags :( .
Prices and corperate, if anything, see it as a positive, we still have many area's we can improve regarding revenue.