That must surely apply to you as well then?, you've won 1 trophy in 20 years, hardly miles a head of us are you?. Under Moyes you've won fuck all in 8 years but mouth off about how successfully he is, you want improve on 5th because you've peaked, that is your level. Untill you invest in your squad you will never improve on it.Darker shade of Blue said:bluemoon27 said:you really do come on here and talk shite
We outplayed you twice last season matey, and in such a fashion that your fans had to eat humble pie and admit we were a great side. We've been one of the best sides in the league since, so why is it that the respect that we deserve, and actually received, is so quickly lost?
Our players are fit again, where as last year, we had at least a dozen first team players missing at one stage, and to a squad the size of ours, was a big deal.
You can laugh all you want at Beckford, but he is scoring for fun in pre-season, and looks the real deal. Players aren't borm at the top of the game, but progress. Adam Johnson is your own perfect example.
We don't have European travel, so we will be fresher, and hungrier, and besides, we have been the 5th best team for many years now. It is not unusual to expect us to improve.
If you think I talk shite, then close the curtains, because if you wank each other off with the lights on, you're bound to get a few strange stares. 5th is a compliment, or do you think you are suddenly football aristocracy, despite winning - NOTHING ?
10.Goater_Legend said:That must surely apply to you as well then?, you've won 1 trophy in 20 years, hardly miles a head of us are you?. Under Moyes you've won fuck all in 8 years but mouth off about how successfully he is, you want improve on 5th because you've peaked, that is your level. Untill you invest in your squad you will never improve on it.Darker shade of Blue said:We outplayed you twice last season matey, and in such a fashion that your fans had to eat humble pie and admit we were a great side. We've been one of the best sides in the league since, so why is it that the respect that we deserve, and actually received, is so quickly lost?
Our players are fit again, where as last year, we had at least a dozen first team players missing at one stage, and to a squad the size of ours, was a big deal.
You can laugh all you want at Beckford, but he is scoring for fun in pre-season, and looks the real deal. Players aren't borm at the top of the game, but progress. Adam Johnson is your own perfect example.
We don't have European travel, so we will be fresher, and hungrier, and besides, we have been the 5th best team for many years now. It is not unusual to expect us to improve.
If you think I talk shite, then close the curtains, because if you wank each other off with the lights on, you're bound to get a few strange stares. 5th is a compliment, or do you think you are suddenly football aristocracy, despite winning - NOTHING ?
I don't doubt that mate, you have a brilliant core to your side, which most clubs in the Prem would love to have (including Liverpool) and I have watched you a lot over the last 2 years, since February '08 when you beat us 2-0 at Eastlands in fact. You do dominate teams and you play some good stuff at times with Arteta pulling the strings.Darker shade of Blue said:10.Goater_Legend said:That must surely apply to you as well then?, you've won 1 trophy in 20 years, hardly miles a head of us are you?. Under Moyes you've won fuck all in 8 years but mouth off about how successfully he is, you want improve on 5th because you've peaked, that is your level. Untill you invest in your squad you will never improve on it.
I think what you say is fair to be honest. You're right, and we haven't won an awful lot, but we've had some very rich relatives to deal with along the way, and still came out with a little pride.
One bad season, but to be fair, it was more our own inability to field a fit squad as much as it was other teams being better than us.
Despite results, if you watch Everton play, and I don't suppose you do, then you would see just how much we dominate other teams, including Spurs, Villa, and even City to be fair. We're just unable to have strength in depth, but we're decent in depth. Our first 11 is capable of winning the League, and easily on form, as good as Chelsea or United, but as you said, we need to invest, as it takes more than 11. We do however have some very strong fringe players, and if we can actually avoid injury, who knows. I don't think a top 4 finish is out of reach.
City on the other hand are a bit like a National side. Lots of big names, but no experience of playing together. I wouldn't expect too much too soon.
Darker shade of Blue said:10.Goater_Legend said:That must surely apply to you as well then?, you've won 1 trophy in 20 years, hardly miles a head of us are you?. Under Moyes you've won fuck all in 8 years but mouth off about how successfully he is, you want improve on 5th because you've peaked, that is your level. Untill you invest in your squad you will never improve on it.
I think what you say is fair to be honest. You're right, and we haven't won an awful lot, but we've had some very rich relatives to deal with along the way, and still came out with a little pride.
One bad season, but to be fair, it was more our own inability to field a fit squad as much as it was other teams being better than us.
Despite results, if you watch Everton play, and I don't suppose you do, then you would see just how much we dominate other teams, including Spurs, Villa, and even City to be fair. We're just unable to have strength in depth, but we're decent in depth. Our first 11 is capable of winning the League, and easily on form, as good as Chelsea or United, but as you said, we need to invest, as it takes more than 11. We do however have some very strong fringe players, and if we can actually avoid injury, who knows. I don't think a top 4 finish is out of reach.
City on the other hand are a bit like a National side. Lots of big names, but no experience of playing together. I wouldn't expect too much too soon.
Darker shade of Blue said:I think you'll finish in 5th.
Other teams will 'want' to prove a point against you for now, and though I think you'll do well against the other top teams, it's the next tier of teams you'll get stung by.
If, Everton keep Pienaar and Arteta, I expect us to finish 3rd or 4th, if not push higher, such is the quality of our team. Moyes is due success, and I see it coming very soon.
See you on the way past ;o)