2016/17 Home Kit Blue Shorts are back

citykev28 said:
a) It was kappa's interpretation not le coq's.
b) Dark trim is as much City as United. We've had dark blue trim throughout the decades.
c) I haven't got a third point but just a) and b) looks a bit sit.
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Stand corrected on point a) - Le Coq followed them with the same.
b) We've had flashes of dark trim, but our identity is overwhelmingly sky blue and white that's my point. I'm not addressing socks either btw. If you have to pick two colours you associate with City's home kit, it's sky blue and white.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Totally agree with the white shorts bit, but "dark, raggy trim"? I think you should take a look at our history. Navy blue has been part of the clubs colours since the 1800s! We wore navy blue socks for over 80 years! Far from being "raggy" it's actually more down to Reebok sacking off the navy socks in the early 2000s only for them never to return which is the anomoly.

Manchester City's core colours throughout history is:
Sky blue shirt
White shorts
Navy blue socks.

People may have other personal preferences, but throughout our 100+ year history, they have been our colours for 70% of the time.
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I'm more than aware of our history, I wouldn't have posted that otherwise. I wasn't including the socks as part of the trim as they've constantly changed, I was addressing the shirt specifically. If you disregard any laser blue shirts as they can't even get the home colours right, there's a period of six years in the 20th century with a black collar where there's more black than white - other than that there's just as much white.

The only kits I specifically find issue regarding this is Umbro a few years ago and Nike's last seasons (which had no white anywhere). I associate dark trim with them, white with us as they've often had black trim and shorts.

Regarding the socks you address, dark shorts/socks seems to have been standard in the early 20th century as I doubt the availability of the modern colour scheme was the same - or for other reasons.

My point is our modern colour scheme is sky blue and white - what we have gradually found over time.
 
GeekinGav said:
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I think that's a nice kit.
Gav, do you do this for a job, designing I mean?
(Warning: Soap-Box moment)
That said, I just think that no other club change their home kit colours every other year. Our colours are our identity, and as I have seen since the badge consultation stuff happened, it's our identity more than any symbol or badge. We should keep our identity clear, and not cloud it with changes.
 
CitizenTID said:
I'm more than aware of our history, I wouldn't have posted that otherwise. I wasn't including the socks as part of the trim as they've constantly changed, I was addressing the shirt specifically. If you disregard any laser blue shirts as they can't even get the home colours right, there's a period of six years in the 20th century with a black collar where there's more black than white - other than that there's just as much white.

The only kits I specifically find issue regarding this is Umbro a few years ago and Nike's last seasons (which had no white anywhere). I associate dark trim with them, white with us as they've often had black trim and shorts.

Regarding the socks you address, dark shorts/socks seems to have been standard in the early 20th century as I doubt the availability of the modern colour scheme was the same - or for other reasons.

My point is our modern colour scheme is sky blue and white - what we have gradually found over time.
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I'm pretty sure a variety of sock colours were available from the 1800s onwards. The Shite had green socks in the 1800s, Liverpool had read, I'm sure if we were so inclined we could have had sky blue. We chose navy, and to me sky blue, white and navy blue are the Manchester City colours.

I completely agree with you that white is an essential part of our identity. Even more so than navy blue. Every City kit should always contain sky blue and white, and every kit did until two years ago, and it's a joke that the club let Nike do away with it on a whim after 100 years of history.

I'm not saying you're one of them, but there are countless posters who say "navy blue is not a City colour" and it winds me up. It's absolutely a City colour and has been for over 100 years. It's not raggish, it's not Coventry, it's Manchester City. Navy blue is very much a City colour.

My personal view is that:
The shirts should ALWAYS be sky blue
The shorts should ALWAYS be white
The socks should ALWAYS be blue. I don't mind the odd change between sky blue and navy blue, but I don't really like City wearing white socks, it looks like a cheap Lazio rip off.

This same debate happens every alternate year when the club / manufacturers decide to fuck around with our identity. We need another club consultation, decide on an identity the fans want and stick to it. Stop fucking around with it like we're a Sunday League side.
 
White shorts with the sky blue shirt whenever possible. I thought the club had listened to the fans about this?
 
BlueAnorak said:
White shorts with the sky blue shirt whenever possible. I thought the club had listened to the fans about this?
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Yeh they listened and then completely ignored it.

The club are fully aware how unpopular the blue shorts are but chose to not give a toss.
 
dasein said:
I think that's a nice kit.
Gav, do you do this for a job, designing I mean?
(Warning: Soap-Box moment)
That said, I just think that no other club change their home kit colours every other year. Our colours are our identity, and as I have seen since the badge consultation stuff happened, it's our identity more than any symbol or badge. We should keep our identity clear, and not cloud it with changes.
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No mate, had no training or education or anything professional like that, so couldn't do it as a job.

Only started as a protest as I didn't want to sit around colouring in pictures after I suffered my Stroke, like all the other patients had to do.

So I got my laptop in and just started doing random things on MS Paint (that was the limit my brain function could manage then)... and been doing a bit random creativity every day since, to help stimulate the brain and keep it active.

That's why don't mind if people don't like anything, they aren't meant to be popular etc. Just a task I have to do. Flip side of that is why I get an idea in my head, it stays in there until I design it, whether it's complete random crap or not, or it just annoys the he'll of me 'til I do... which is pretty much anything I do at the moment. :(

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GeekinGav I have to say you are an inspirational person. Keep posting whatever (City related) stuff you come up with, it brings joy to people or at least to me. :-)

Merry Christmas mate!
 
GeekinGav said:
No mate, had no training or education or anything professional like that, so couldn't do it as a job.

Only started as a protest as I didn't want to sit around colouring in pictures after I suffered my Stroke, like all the other patients had to do.

So I got my laptop in and just started doing random things on MS Paint (that was the limit my brain function could manage then)... and been doing a bit random creativity every day since, to help stimulate the brain and keep it active.

That's why don't mind if people don't like anything, they aren't meant to be popular etc. Just a task I have to do. Flip side of that is why I get an idea in my head, it stays in there until I design it, whether it's complete random crap or not, or it just annoys the he'll of me 'til I do... which is pretty much anything I do at the moment. :(

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I think you have a talent for it, and from what you've said, i think you are an amazing person. You have been dealt a rotten hand but have shown great fight. Your resourcefulness and creativity, I'm sure, is not just a benefit to your recovery, but to everyone here too. Merry Citymas mate
 
bigf42 said:
I used to be dead set against blue shorts, "like Coventry" I used to rant..... Then came 93:20 and blue shorts are etched into the memories of our greatest moment..... Still prefer white, but from a marketing/establish a global identity, you can see the point
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This is a good point, wouldn't be surprised if the goal for the club was to move to blue shorts as a standard and they're simply throwing white shorts in every other season as a way of blind sighting the fans.
 
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