west didsblue
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Trump would shit himself if Biden touched him. Like most bullies he’s a big shithouse.
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2020 US Elections
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Bigga
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You have this completely backwards. Trump is the current president who's down a ton in the polls, is currently presiding over a huge economic and humanitarian calamity, and just spend the last year painting his opponent as a senile old man who can't string a sentence together. He's the one that needs a perfect performance. All Biden needs to do is show up and be mediocre.
Again, you can't read.
What I said means he can't be LESS THAN mediocre.
MillionMilesAway
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I don't think Biden will be able to fix the problems in the US, or the damage to structures that have happened under Trump.
I think he will be able to start fixing them though. He'll need to involve at least more moderate Republicans to do so though.
I think he will be able to start fixing them though. He'll need to involve at least more moderate Republicans to do so though.
I get it, Ali B.
It doesn't stop people afflicted by Biden in the past, not wanting him charge. people are fearful that democracy and the US will burn if #45 is left in charge.
For the record, again, I don't think that's true. It's just more hyperbole from a wind up merchant; the same that promised to "lock her up!".
He commands such control over the fear factor because he's willing to cross the boundaries of what's supposed to be honour.
The guy is in, literally, the fight for his life.
I argued many times with p-c American colleagues i worked with in teaching (retired now) that their fears about DT's "dictatorial intentions" were paranoid, and i'd still say it's more a case of him taking delight in annoying those snowflake liberals who are most easily annoyed (as you've sometimes annoyed me, tbh.) But i can't get past two things: 1. his sheer nastiness, e.g.. mocking that disabled reporter, and 2. his willful blindness to threats to the environment. Whether the latter is out of ignorance or corporate greed i don't know, but its results are everywhere around and the world never mind just America needs to be rid of him.
Again, you can't read.
What I said means he can't be LESS THAN mediocre.
That is definitely not what you said, but ok.
I'm not in denial about The Idiot, but he wasn't selected because he was an amazing politician. In 2016, he struck a chord with a public that was sick of the polished say-everything-do-nothing politician. The fact that he's a dumb arse does not negate that familiar feeling of the same politician coming back.
Yes, I understand Biden may well win, but the debate tonight will have to be perfect for him. It doesn't have to be that way for a 4 years old politician.
Biden can't afford to forget shit after being ruffled, nor really stutter too much or long. It will just make him look vulnerable.
#45 will hardly be focused on the current situation as it's not great for him, so he'll use what he can to muddy the waters.
I'm not in denial about The Idiot, but he wasn't selected because he was an amazing politician. In 2016, he struck a chord with a public that was sick of the polished say-everything-do-nothing politician. The fact that he's a dumb arse does not negate that familiar feeling of the same politician coming back.
Yes, I understand Biden may well win, but the debate tonight will have to be perfect for him. It doesn't have to be that way for a 4 years old politician.
Biden can't afford to forget shit after being ruffled, nor really stutter too much or long. It will just make him look vulnerable.
#45 will hardly be focused on the current situation as it's not great for him, so he'll use what he can to muddy the waters.
Trump wins pretty much every debate - it what put him in the White House. It doesn't matter though because undecided voters aren't going to swing on who "wins" a debate, they'll swing on the narratives that each are putting forward. The liberal narrative is stronger as it has been pretty much a 4 year onslaught so it will turn on that. These might actually be the least important debates in my lifetime in terms of election result.
Although Pelosi's idea of Biden not debating Trump "for the good of democracy" has been my favourite thing of this current election season and worth the price of admission alone.
Bigga
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I argued many times with p-c American colleagues i worked with in teaching (retired now) that their fears about DT's "dictatorial intentions" were paranoid, and i'd still say it's more a case of him taking delight in annoying those snowflake liberals who are most easily annoyed (as you've sometimes annoyed me, tbh.) But i can't get past two things: 1. his sheer nastiness, e.g.. mocking that disabled reporter, and 2. his willful blindness to threats to the environment. Whether the latter is out of ignorance or corporate greed i don't know, but its results are everywhere around and the world never mind just America needs to be rid of him.
Understood and I'm not protecting him, but he's had a revenge list in the media and politicians to get through; Obama publicly mocking him made his mind up to run.
Thanks Obama.
As for the environment? The Dems have been no angels on this subject. Biden is on record saying he wants fracking to go ahead, has basically said real action for the environment won't happen til 2050 (supposedly 10-12 years before irreversible changes happen) and has been endorsed by Rich Snyder of all people!
There's got to be better examples of politicians that care about the people and the planet!
There's got to be better examples of politicians that care about the people and the planet!
All politicians care about people and the planet. Including Trump, Biden, Obama, etc.
The biggest lie in politics is that all politicians are power hungry despots who don't give a shit about anybody but themselves. It's just a way for people to sway others to their side.
In reality the difference between most politicians is that their idea of how to go about helping the people and the planet are radically different. Don't confuse the two.
Bigga
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That is definitely not what you said, but ok.
Yes, you'd expect a person who has been in politics since his 30s(40 years) to have a 'perfect' night against someone who has 36 years less experience than him.
But sidestep all you like about what 'mediocre' means in political terms.
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