2020 US Elections

[Bigga]

Bigga.

I’m hoping the AOC’s and other radicals that are now in are playing the long game. Eventually they will come through. As someone else has said in here waiting for neoliberalism to eat itself then coming through as a radical, and more crucially a safe and attractive alternative.

I am, too, hoping Cortez is playing the long game as her actions and inactions have been a little odd of late. It's like she can't help when she bursts out, but then she's silent with other things.

A few Progressives think she's 'turned', but I have kept my counsel on what she's doing.

She won't register under a Biden Admin, but by the time a Harris Admin might be in play, she'll have significant power.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

This thread :)

 

[Damocles]

I do find it odd that you'd spend your time on far right forums. Not right wing, not conservative, but what you described as "far right", neo-nazi, white supremacist, neo-fascist forums are not something anyone on the normal political spectrum would enjoy reading.

I also used to read the magazine that ISIS put out regularly.

Somehow I find it more enlightening to see what people are saying themselves rather than reading it thirteenth hand on Twitter.

Primary sourcing is a radical idea only taught in high institutions like primary school history class, but alas it's one that I somehow am attracted to.

 

[mat]

I am, too, hoping Cortez is playing the long game as her actions and inactions have been a little odd of late. It's like she can't help when she bursts out, but then she's silent with other things.

A few Progressives think she's 'turned', but I have kept my counsel on what she's doing.

She won't register under a Biden Admin, but by the time a Harris Admin might be in play, she'll have significant power.

I think she’s paying the “Party Unity” game at the moment. Trump would jump on a split if there was a visible one. I expect that will change should their dream scenario of control of the presidency, house and senate occur.

 

[mat]

This thread :)

Nailed it.

 

[domalino]

I also used to read the magazine that ISIS put out regularly.

Somehow I find it more enlightening to see what people are saying themselves rather than reading it thirteenth hand on Twitter.

Primary sourcing is a radical idea only taught in high institutions like primary school history class, but alas it's one that I somehow am attracted to.

Thinking the only way to learn about something is primary sourcing would certainly explain your absence from bluemoon, must have been a very busy year immersing yourself in the metric tons of terrorist and far right propaganda which is generated every day before even getting onto the forums.

Now I think of it, we might not have gotten to learning why qualified + reviewed secondary sources were stronger until secondary school.

 

[Scottyboi]

I also used to read the magazine that ISIS put out regularly.

Somehow I find it more enlightening to see what people are saying themselves rather than reading it thirteenth hand on Twitter.

Primary sourcing is a radical idea only taught in high institutions like primary school history class, but alas it's one that I somehow am attracted to.

What's your post count on stormfront damo haha

 

[Damocles]

Thinking the only way to learn about something is primary sourcing would certainly explain your absence from bluemoon, must have been a very busy year immersing yourself in the metric tons of terrorist and far right propaganda which is generated every day before even getting onto the forums.

Now I think of it, we might not have gotten to learning why qualified + reviewed secondary sources were stronger until secondary school.

I love how you're dancing around your desperate desire to paint me as a Nazi or far right or "brainwashed". Just come out and say it you coward lol.

Notice also how you didn't ask about the myriad of left and "far left" sites that I also regularly visit and contribute to? Because that's not on your snide agenda is it? That doesn't fit into the picture you're trying to paint.

I do enjoy these amusing pseudo-inference type posts.

Oh and the fact that you think primary sources are "weaker" than secondary sources says an awful lot about your education here. That might be the dumbest thing said on the entire thread actually, as cliched as that is to say. That's something that primary school children can tell you is wrong. That's like not knowing your times table.

 

[Damocles]

What's your post count on stormfront damo haha

1488. It used to be more but the Jews stole my posts.

 

[domalino]

I love how you're dancing around your desperate desire to paint me as a Nazi or far right or "brainwashed". Just come out and say it you coward lol.

Notice also how you didn't ask about the myriad of left and "far left" sites that I also regularly visit and contribute to? Because that's not on your snide agenda is it? That doesn't fit into the picture you're trying to paint.

I do enjoy these amusing pseudo-inference type posts.

Oh and the fact that you think primary sources are "weaker" than secondary sources says an awful lot about your education here. That might be the dumbest thing said on the entire thread actually, as cliched as that is to say. That's something that primary school children can tell you is wrong. That's like not knowing your times table.

I dont think you're a nazi at all, never considered it for a second. I've seen enough of your posts on this forum over the past 8 years to know youre not.

I just think its an incredibly odd past time to have for the sake of curiosity in an election youre not a part of, and the idea that only primary knowledge was good knowledge ended around the time the first universities were founded 1000 years ago so I dont know why youre doing it.

Edit - in fact knowing youre not a neonazi is why i find it odd. If a few others had popped up and started talking about how people on far right forums they visit are handling last night then id not be surprised at all.

You mentioned you read far right stuff and what they are posting about, how they think, so thats the stuff I questioned you on.

If you want to tell us about all insights you've gleamed from the far left the id hear them too.

 

[Scottyboi]

1488. It used to be more but the Jews stole my posts.

Deus Vult!

 

[Damocles]

I just think its an incredibly odd past time to have for the sake of curiosity in an election youre not a part of, and the idea that only primary knowledge was good knowledge ended around the time the first universities were founded 1000 years ago so I dont knkw why youre doing it.

I didn't say that primary knowledge is the only good knowledge. Primary knowledge is great in these types of situations because then I can look at other secondary sources and think "hold on, that's out of context" or "well that's not really my experience there". When the topic is about how people view things then I find looking at how people view things more informative than reading somebody else, who may or may not have an agenda, telling me how people view things.
We're not talking about long term cause and effect history here, we're talking about actual examples of people's views.

Essentially, I understand that a VAST VAST VAST majority of the media are completely full of shit and totally slanted and I like to try and have access to reliable information. If you can think of a better way than this then I'm all ears.

And I don't read about politics because of an election, I read about politics because I am interested in politics and the current state of the world and attempt to be a somewhat informed citizen to the best of my reasonable ability so that when I do cast a vote then I can try to have some form of a grasp on what it is the reality of the society that I am in. Especially the only remaining global superpower with a cultural dominance over the English speaking world of which me and my country are a part of and allied to.

 

[SWP's back]

Stealing that.

 

[SWP's back]

The USA in a car driving 80mph off a cliff, and your position is screaming "Don't reverse, that just means we're going back down the road that lead us to the cliff!!"

Ha. Brilliant.

 

[Damocles]

Instead of debating the conservative bona fides of the panel, which I truly couldn't care less about, you actually think Trump went out there and did well considering he's well behind at the moment? That's the substance I was getting at.

No I think Trump embarrassed himself, his country, and his party and Biden absolutely trounced him on almost every issue.

But that wasn't and still isn't my takeaway from the night. My takeaway is that it was a circus sideshow which the entire country should be ashamed of and make them all want to throw their candidates off the nearest cliff rather than endlessly and pointlessly discussing how their guy "won" or actually "was only like that because of the other guy". But the vast majority aren't going to do that because they are brainwashed partisans who like their guy or much more accurately, hate the other guy so much that everything that they do is evidence of wrongdoing.

The entire show was disgusting. These tweets sums up my views on the entire thing:

I'll remind you that this was a DEBATE by two grown adult men in politics who will have control of the greatest military arsenal in the history of mankind while also being the economic, cultural and scientific centre of at least the Anglosphere if not the entire world. It's fucking embarrassing.

 

[SWP's back]

What's your post count on stormfront damo haha

Fucker’s banned me twice for being left wing.

 

[SWP's back]

1488. It used to be more but the Jews stole my posts.

And that explains Colin’s hiatus.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

In the article you linked to it mentions a few words synonymous with Black for equation and profiling. For example


Here, HRC goes on to link that word with others before leading up to her summation of 'Super Predator'.



All whilst she's talking about "kids" to quote her.

Here's Biden talking about Black people without mentioning the demographic.


It puts a lot of people on the back foot when it comes to the young Black vote as they saw their families and friends locked away as they were brought up in the cycle of having no parents, no money and having very little choice but to sort themselves out.

There are some absolute tools on here that continue to not understand why certain people are hesitant to cast a vote for Biden as it's like bending the knee to your tomenter.

But they're being told to 'suck it up'?

Fuck, you would never catch me doing that either!

And that's not even to mention the amount of times he's said 'fuck off!' to Progressives whilst courting their vote!

I might duck out soon because I'm still not seeing it, through British eyes. I need to see contemporaneous evidence describing 'predator' or 'super-predator' as code words for black kids because I'm not finding it in my searches. My suspicion is it has been inferred onto it over the passage of time. The link by the way suggests that the Dems were not using racial code (or at least not before 2012, the date of the article) but if you suspect every time someone chooses to use the word 'crime' they are using it as a code-word, I think we're done.

It's all moot anyway in terms of the presidential debate as it will count for nought.

 

[Damocles]

Fucker’s banned me twice for being left wing.

I can assure you that I'm much too lazy to ever actually do any moderating work.

 

[SWP's back]

I can assure you that I'm much too lazy to ever actually do any moderating work.

I’m gonna be honest, you’ve intrigued me as to what the “actual” far right groups think of Trump and I want to look for myself. All jokes aside, is it storm front that would be the place to look at? (VPN at the ready as I don’t want to end up on some monitoring list - more than I am now).