2020 US Elections

[BigOscar]

There’s more chance Biden will represent Trump supporters (even a little) than Trump represent Biden supporters.

There's more chance biden will represent trump's supporters than Trump represent trump's supporters tbh

 

[DrBlueBob]

There’s more chance Biden will represent Trump supporters (even a little) than Trump represent Biden supporters.

There's probably more chance of Biden representing Trump supporters than Trump represents Trump supporters.

 

[DrBlueBob]

There's more chance biden will represent trump's supporters than Trump represent trump's supporters tbh

You bastard! :-)

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Boring.


Anyone want to actually talk about Black issues with both of these parties...? Anyone...?

No...?

Thought not.

Yeah your right - Biden has done nothing for Black people....

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Gap widening... https://today.yougov.com/2020-presi...site_article&utm_campaign=US_presidential_MRP

It isn't wide enough. I don't want those 95% confidence intervals overlapping at all.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Yeah your right - Biden has done nothing for Black people....

That isn't going to help -- that poster has already disparaged President Obama over and over.

 

[TonyM]

Why do we think they have to wait 11 hours?

It's so sad to think that people in America must go through this.

 

[1.618034]

It's so sad to think that people in America must go through this.

Don't the UN usually get involved when we see this in other "shit hole countries"?

 

[mat]

It's so sad to think that people in America must go through this.

This bullshit belongs in the past. All sides should give the people the easiest and most secure ways to cast their votes.

To me all these people are heroes. Literally putting their lives on hold to perform their civic duty despite all the blocks put in their way.

 

[Bigga]

Thanks. We’ve heard your niche argument countless times. However many times you repeat your argument, it will remain niche and moot.

"Black issues" with the candidates are "moot" i.e., 'no one gives a fuck'.

Got it.

 

[Bigga]

Yeah your right - Biden has done nothing for Black people....

Wait...

Your argument is that Black people have no issues since Obama became Pres with Biden's help...?

Okay. Well, that's a new spin!

Is this your "the US can't have systemic racism as it elected a Black pres" argument...?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

"Black issues" with the candidates are "moot" i.e., 'no one gives a fuck'.

Got it.

They are in this election, which is the thread you are posting in.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

This bullshit belongs in the past. All sides should give the people the easiest and most secure ways to cast their votes.

To me all these people are heroes. Literally putting their lives on hold to perform their civic duty despite all the blocks put in their way.

Yep. Meantime, in California, I'm going to sit down with my ballot and a vodka, carefully fill in my selections, and then sign the envelope and drive and drop it off at the county building (vs. putting it in the post). We've been vote by mail here forever.

 

[cjn]

Boring.


Anyone want to actually talk about Black issues with both of these parties...? Anyone...?

No...?

Thought not.

If you want, sure, but this is an election in which around 90% of the Black vote is going to end up with Biden, so I'm not sure what the purpose of arguing a counter-factual is.

 

[BigOscar]

If you want, sure, but this is an election in which around 90% of the Black vote is going to end up with Biden, so I'm not sure what the purpose of arguing a counter-factual is.

He has 3000 youtube videos to "prove" that the real black people won't actually be voting Biden and he's more than willing to spam them

 

[AliBobbyJ]

I would imagine Biden’s view on Trump supporters is the same as what most of us on here think about them.

Yes, true, but being looked down on as "deplorables" by Hilary Clinton drove a lot of voters to Trump in 2016 and I fear those divisions have only become deeper in the past four years. Maybe honest Joe Biden of Scranton, PA., can bridge that gap, but with the likes of AOC coming up behind him in the Democratic Party I think it's going to be a feature of U.S. politics for years to come. Strange how things change: 200 years ago Edmund Burke called the common people "the swinish multitude" as part of his defense of conservative principles, now it's the radical left doing the same to the folks who don't have fancy degrees. Insulting ordinary people has never been a way to get their support. Trouble is, Trump scorns them but they think he's on their side. Fuck off with his "'I just want to give you all a kiss."

 

[nmc]

Just caught a glimpse of the Trump rally on C4 News - the highlight being the African American in a Trump t-shirt wearing a mask emblazoned with the confederate flag... either taking the piss or plain stupid, probably the latter.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Yes, true, but being looked down on as "deplorables" by Hilary Clinton drove a lot of voters to Trump in 2016 and I fear those divisions have only become deeper in the past four years. Maybe honest Joe Biden of Scranton, PA., can bridge that gap, but with the likes of AOC coming up behind him in the Democratic Party I think it's going to be a feature of U.S. politics for years to come. Strange how things change: 200 years ago Edmund Burke called the common people "the swinish multitude" as part of his defense of conservative principles, now it's the radical left doing the same to the folks who don't have fancy degrees. Insulting ordinary people has never been a way to get their support. Trouble is, Trump scorns them but they think he's on their side. Fuck off with his "'I just want to give you all a kiss."

This is a really useful topic for another time, but I agree about the casting out of the white, less educated working class. The deplorables comment by Clinton was a blunder of epic proportions. Trump has inflamed them because he's given them things to blame their lot in life on. And I'd argue it's not the radical left, but the moderate left, centrists and moderate right that have given these voters the paternalistic pat on the head. And I am a centrist. And I do it.

What Reagan did so well was give blue-collar workers a sense of pride in America and moreover being American. There's a big difference between universal patriotism and conservative patriotism. If Biden wins, I think a lot of this is going to look like The Godfather after Michael kills Sollozzo and the police captain -- it will be ugly -- very ugly -- for awhile but eventually the national tide will turn against Trump and he'll be remembered for being the worst President in American history just as McCluskey was tied to the rackets and was then thought to have deserved what he got. That will take time.

I like Biden because he's an empathetic man who can bring people together for a while. He's hard to hate. That's why he was the best pick against Trump. The question is -- is there a Reagan out there? Not politically -- I mean a person who can unify the nation as he did after the acrimony of Nixon and the economic mess of Carter?

You want to know the truth? I think there is one guy right now. You aren't going to like it . . .

I think it's Dwayne Johnson -- The Rock. I'm serious. Maybe he'd have to renounce his dual citizenship.

But as I said -- we should pick this up after the election. Right now Trump needs to be skewered and the chickenshit GOP enablers of his reign along with him.

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[AliBobbyJ]

Right now Trump needs to be skewered and the chickenshit GOP enablers of his reign along with him.

This is all, now and for the next three weeks. Let Texas and the Senate turn blue. Otherwise it's goodbye to health care, America as a city on a hill, and the polar bears.