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They are in this election, which is the thread you are posting in.
Really? The issues with Harris have been avoided, with Biden ignored. Involvement from the the main players in the Dem party in the leadership contest.

Let's see if reparations are a real avenue of action and not just voting talk.

I guarantee it won't be explored post election.
 
Really? The issues with Harris have been avoided, with Biden ignored. Involvement from the the main players in the Dem party in the leadership contest.

Let's see if reparations are a real avenue of action and not just voting talk.

I guarantee it won't be explored post election.

To debate such things, you need adults in charge.

Getting rid of Trump allows this process to begin.

Is Biden the solution? No.

Would the chances of the country going back to some form of civility improve under Biden? Yes.

What you want to achieve will take years. It needs to be debated without as much politicisation as possible.

We need adults in charge first. This is the hopeful outcome of this election.

Baby steps.
 
If you want, sure, but this is an election in which around 90% of the Black vote is going to end up with Biden, so I'm not sure what the purpose of arguing a counter-factual is.
90% of an 'election' already shaped towards the Biden candidacy before the Dem leadership race even started. Hardly 'democratic', was it?

Anyway, like I say, fuck all will happen under Biden.

Which was the point, no...?
 
To debate such things, you need adults in charge.

Getting rid of Trump allows this process to begin.

Is Biden the solution? No.

Would the chances of the country going back to some form of civility improve under Biden? Yes.

What you want to achieve will take years. It needs to be debated without as much politicisation as possible.

We need adults in charge first. This is the hopeful outcome of this election.

Baby steps.
This has been talked about for YEARS! I count back to the 60s in Black history studies.

There have been 'adults' in charge before. Did it start with a Black president in charge? No.

Not likely at all under any neolib gov, never mind "baby steps".
 
This has been talked about for YEARS! I count back to the 60s in Black history studies.

There have been 'adults' in charge before. Did it start with a Black president in charge? No.

Not likely at all under any neolib gov, never mind "baby steps".

Ok, so whoever becomes president, your wishes won’t be fulfilled.

saying it thousands of times won’t change that.

America is unlikely to change from neoliberal this century, let alone in November.
 
Ok, so whoever becomes president, your wishes won’t be fulfilled.

saying it thousands of times won’t change that.

America is unlikely to change from neoliberal this century, let alone in November.
Oh well, finally you agree!

It just brings a likely repeat for another Repub pres, in the mould or worse than this one, coming to the fore in the future.

Awesome.
 
Oh well, finally you agree!

It just brings a likely repeat for another Repub pres, in the mould or worse than this one, coming to the fore in the future.

Awesome.

You are the woman on the right.

Genuinely we have found a meme version of you and the best thing is that Noam Chomsky is the one telling people like you to stop being idiots.



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Oh well, finally you agree!

It just brings a likely repeat for another Repub pres, in the mould or worse than this one, coming to the fore in the future.

Awesome.

I don‘t think that it is a big factor in this, or any election over there.

I refer the right honourable Bigga to my “moot and niche view” that I posted earlier.
 
90% of an 'election' already shaped towards the Biden candidacy before the Dem leadership race even started. Hardly 'democratic', was it?

Anyway, like I say, fuck all will happen under Biden.

Which was the point, no...?
Honest question, and a very straight one. Would you prefer to have another term for Trump or would you prefer a change? As Biden is the only candidate to takeover then he would be the only other option.
 
90% of an 'election' already shaped towards the Biden candidacy before the Dem leadership race even started. Hardly 'democratic', was it?

Anyway, like I say, fuck all will happen under Biden.

Which was the point, no...?
I don’t really understand what’s undemocratic about any of this? People tend to vote the same way each election and there are very good reasons why African Americans abandoned the Republican Party.
 
I don’t really understand what’s undemocratic about any of this? People tend to vote the same way each election and there are very good reasons why African Americans abandoned the Republican Party.

It's undemocratic because he's not getting exactly what he wants. Because his preferred (i.e. the one and only) option isn't on the table, the system must be rigged against him.

He's a child, which is why his perspective is belittled and marginalized, and well it should be. He can't bring himself to support Biden ONE TIME, against the greatest Oval Office threat in the nation's history, in the nation's hour of greatest need, when the support of the left needs to be unified the most (centrists, moderates, Progressives -- everyone).

So then why should his views be considered afterwards? They shouldn't be, and they won't be -- and by that, I mean the views of those like him (of which there are an irritatingly large number -- more than one is irritating, actually).

BUT . . . if the margin of victory looks like what it might be, Biden doesn't even NEED this small cadre of self fart-smellers to vote -- unlike Clinton. They can stay home on Election Day and whine and moan and breathe in their own flatulence to their hearts' content. And they won't get a seat at the table after. They don't deserve one. They wouldn't help when Biden looked like he needed them. Then he didn't need them. What would you do?

That's right -- tell them to fuck off -- PRECISELY as Sanders and AOC are going to do to that wing of their supporters who dissed their decisions to support Biden. You'll get more done for everyone else you want and need to help without kowtowing to a wing that says no to anything and everything that isn't exactly what they want.

He yammers on about "down ballot Progressives" -- yo, bitch, the down ballot Progressives aren't winning primaries and getting votes in the general because they're withholding their support of Biden!!! They are unified with the party against Trump! Wake up! Do you think they're out there with bumper stickers that say "Vote For Me -- But Not For Biden; He'll Get Nothing Done"??

So instead, to quote Judge Smails, "You'll get nothing and like it." That's how we treat spoiled children. That's how we summarily axe friends or subordinates on the job who behave like this.

So who cares who he'd vote for? It's looking like more and more like it's not going to matter.

Which if it comes to pass will be HILARIOUS.

OK. Whew. I got it out of my system. That's the last you'll hear from me on this subject. I'm done. I knew I shouldn't have clicked that tempting "Show Ignored Content" link. Fuck me. Time to focus on everyone else, who is helping -- I HOPE and I PRAY -- to send Trump to a humiliating and richly-deserved defeat.
 
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This has been talked about for YEARS! I count back to the 60s in Black history studies.

There have been 'adults' in charge before. Did it start with a Black president in charge? No.

Not likely at all under any neolib gov, never mind "baby steps".
60 years ago we wouldn't think of Texas and Georgia as swing states.
 
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