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LOL!! Love how you twisted that! Well done!

As I remember it, you lot said the deal should be done as it was important! Has that changed? I show the hypocrisy of any you not calling out Pelosi for 'holding out', so it's got fuck all to do with my thoughts on it!

You said nothing about her not opposing trillions spent on bailouts for business, but she's supposedly fighting for the people and halting some money being given.

Pelosi on a power trip, but you'd rather ignore her behaviour or bend the knee on her actions!


I admire that you are sticking to your principles, but at this juncture, being principled to the point of self-destruction is not the way forward.

It only serves to help put the most corrupt President ever (not even up for debate) back in power.
 
I seem to remember there being six choices on the ballot, libertarian, monster raving etc...and you can write in anybody you want
In that case the majority should write in the vote sack of shit 2020.

At least the world will know what to expect should it win.
 
I admire that you are sticking to your principles, but at this juncture, being principled to the point of self-destruction is not the way forward.

It only serves to help put the most corrupt President ever (not even up for debate) back in power.
It's not "self" destruction though is it, because he's not American and won't be the one suffering if Trump gets 4 more years. He's happy for American woman to potentially have their reproductive rights taken away from them, gay americans to have their rights taken away from them, immigrants to continue to be treated like animals and millions of people to suffer, if that mass pain and suffering leads to his imaginary revolution later. (which there is zero proof it even would)

That's not being principled, it's being a selfish twat
 
I admire that you are sticking to your principles, but at this juncture, being principled to the point of self-destruction is not the way forward.

It only serves to help put the most corrupt President ever (not even up for debate) back in power.
It’s not self-destruction when you’re happy for other poor people to be destructed for ones own personal satisfaction.
 
It's not "self" destruction though is it, because he's not American and won't be the one suffering if Trump gets 4 more years. He's happy for American woman to potentially have their reproductive rights taken away from them, gay americans to have their rights taken away from them, immigrants to continue to be treated like animals and millions of people to suffer, if that mass pain and suffering leads to his imaginary revolution later. (which there is zero proof it even would)

That's not being principled, it's being a selfish twat

It’s not self-destruction when you’re happy for other poor people to be destructed for ones own personal satisfaction.
I was thinking self destruction in a collective sense, but I couldn't think of the correct phrase.

I'm sure there are many more than Bigga with a chip on their shoulder because their guy didn't get the nomination, ironically in a democratic process.
 
Well we’re on for seeing a record voter turnout. I wonder why so many more people will vote this year than previous?



Oh yeah, most people are sensible and can see what affects their lives more.
 
Dax will be along to tell us how the GOP are thrilled so many people that are legally allowed to vote are likely to vote.



Any second now.
 
I admire that you are sticking to your principles, but at this juncture, being principled to the point of self-destruction is not the way forward.

It only serves to help put the most corrupt President ever (not even up for debate) back in power.

Principle is exactly the point to quite a few.

If she cared enough, she'd take the last chance of any real money to help alleviate the pressure on the American worker and state her case on the issues that may well present themselves and let the people be the judges.

But, she's not doing that, is she?

She's holding up the process and people's home are at risk of foreclosure whilst she plays at 'white knight'.

That, in itself, is enough for a few people to think 'what is the difference?' and is valid.
 
Here you go, smart guy. Here's the 'leader' of the Dems refusing to accept the much needed $1.8T, which is more than what Obama gave to bail out the banks after the crash.

Tame Wolf Blitzer as well, not playing the game!! LOL!



What's she waiting for if the people are so important?!


Do you miss one of his remarks? "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Perhaps you should take that to heart.
 
It's not "self" destruction though is it, because he's not American and won't be the one suffering if Trump gets 4 more years. He's happy for American woman to potentially have their reproductive rights taken away from them, gay americans to have their rights taken away from them, immigrants to continue to be treated like animals and millions of people to suffer, if that mass pain and suffering leads to his imaginary revolution later. (which there is zero proof it even would)

That's not being principled, it's being a selfish twat
LOL:!!!! Well, if that's not the biggest crock of shit said on the thread!!

I thought you lot loved 'incrementalism' or 'baby steps'!!

See, that's the difference between neolibs and Progressives; the desire to enact policy that is embedded in the system to benefit the people. When Dem GOP policies are very similar, you always have one overtake the other. Progressive policies are designed to embed a backbone for growth for the people.

You talk about Roe v Wade and Pelosi admits they've been playing that game for years, she just wields out the threat of it when it comes to elections. She's said it herself.

Obama opposed gay rights before changing his mind.

Immigrants were put in cages during the Obama-Biden admin AND sent 27,000 bombs overseas displacing millions, so I'm not sure which people you're on about suffering!

And I'm the selfish one...?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...
 
Both a Rep and Dem candidate on morning joe agreed this election is a vote for or against Trump. Both said Biden is hardly mentioned on their campaign hustings.
 
Principle is exactly the point to quite a few.

If she cared enough, she'd take the last chance of any real money to help alleviate the pressure on the American worker and state her case on the issues that may well present themselves and let the people be the judges.

But, she's not doing that, is she?

She's holding up the process and people's home are at risk of foreclosure whilst she plays at 'white knight'.

That, in itself, is enough for a few people to think 'what is the difference?' and is valid.
This is about your principled approach, no one else's, but to quote you:

Amazing deflection!
 
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